stiffs

[gerry_brown21]

is 17 a stiff..? you can't win unless the dealer busts so it must b right...? speaking of stiffs would somebody believe that they foreshadow a high hand in the next few and a possible big bet??

[Ray]

but, you can push....you can't push with a stiff....17 is a made hand, no
matter how you get there.......no

[Nickels_n_Bullets]

Back from hiatus. I see not much has changed, and lucky Grifter beats N.O. whammy.

The funny thing about your question is that in Dealer Hits Soft 17, Hard 17 vs. dealer Ace is such a stiff that you CAN surrender it (if offered).

Otherwise, stick with this bad hand, bad as it is.