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charleyc
04-17-2004, 10:47 AM
HI, I'm new to the thrill of blackjack, just wanting to trawl the collective mind here, and clear up a few rules and such.... OK, firstly, here are the rules for my my casino:

Blackjack Rules

Depending on the dealer the cut varies from 1 deck to even 1/2 deck. Although there are no $5 tables for blackjack you should have no trouble finding a $10 table at any time of the day.

* 8 Decks, dealt from shoe
* Automatic Shuffle Machines
*75% Penetration; one cutting card
* Double on 9, 10 or 11 only (D9); partial double allowed
* Dealer stands on soft 17 (S17)
* Split to 3 hands
* Aces split to 2 hands
* One card only on split aces
* Double after split (DAS)
* Double for less allowed
* Blackjack pays 3:2
* Insurance pays 2:1
* Dealer blackjack takes Original and Busted Bets Only (OBBO)
* First card from shoe burnt

Back Betting / Wonging In
Back betting is allowed up to three hands per box. Knowledge of basic strategy of the general player is quite good so this could be a good strategy.

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"* Double on 9, 10 or 11 only (D9); partial double allowed"
- Does this mean I can't double on a soft hand? I'm amost certain that's not the case, so this aplies to hard totals? what is the typicalrule for doubling? what is this (D9) business and what on earth is a partial double?

* Split to 3 hands - what I guess this to mean is that I can split a card, then if I get a second split oppurtunity I can split once more, is this right? So in theory, does this mean that if I get two split oppurtunities after the initial split I must chose one of them? And aces can on be split once?

* Double for less allowed - I'm lost on this one - please help

* Dealer blackjack takes Original and Busted Bets Only, against dealers blackjack (OBBO) - I'm confused, you should probably start at the beginning on this one......what other bets are there than original?

* First card from shoe burnt - Is this common practice? why do they do this? Throws counters off?

* To the best of my knowledge, I believe it would be best to emoply the Atlantic City deck basic strategy, on account of the DAS, correct? What other strategy might be suggested as adventageous considering the given rules?

* Anybody know of any good sites where I could read up on progression betting strategies?

* I read somewhere that is 'unspoken ettiqutte' if you are sitting at third base, and your recieve a certain crucial hand, I can't remember what it was, something like a 16 vs 10, you should ask what others players think you should do, not that you have to take their advice, but it was said that this is what is done. --- Seems crazy to me, who cares what the other players think? I'm not sure if an individuals play can ever be known beforehand to affect on players either way, can anyone clear this up? -- But even if this is true, who really cares what happens to the other players? Is this a fallacy? I'm quite sure they're not worried about my bankroll, intuition says play what ever you want to play, to hell with them all. Is this kind of attitude frowned upon.....?

* How close to playing a computer simulation to the real deal? The brain is a bit tired for the logics of this, if there is a difference what would it be?

Ok, that's about it for now, thanks in advance for anyone who takes the time to help me out here, much appreciated. I shall read as my posts on here as I can, good day...

Nickels_n_Bullets
04-17-2004, 08:14 PM
The house has about 1/2% advantage. If you can soft double, the house has a 1/3% advantage. From what you write, I'd say no soft doubling allowed (Double down 2 cards, one of them is an Ace). You get a break by having the dealer STAND on soft 17. BUT NO SOFT DOUBLE is not good.

Playing 7 decks out of 8 possible is very good.

Split 3 times means you can play up to 4 hands. Splitting Aces once and getting 1 card each is standard.

Doubling for less and Insurance for less is standard. Always double down fully, if you double down.

"Burning" the 1st card from a new shoe standard. No, it doesn't throw counters off that much in 8 decks. But knowing what that burn card is helps.

Dealer Blackjack rule for Original bets means if you double down and/ or split a pair, and the dealer has blackjack, only the original bet you placed loses. Any additional bet you make to double or split is NOT lost: you get it back. This is also called "American Rules" blackjack.

Atlantic City is DIFFERENT than your rules to the best of my knowledge. Since you CAN'T soft double you will HIT all soft hands that should be doubled. EXCEPTION for Soft 18, it must STAND.

As far as progressions, you're at one of the better sites for general knowledge.

A simple +/- count would help a lot, as you have a bad rule thrown in with the ordinary ones.

N&B

charleyc
04-19-2004, 06:34 AM
thanks for that mate.

D
04-19-2004, 02:31 PM
I don't know about 'unspoken ettiqutte' , but I don't sit at 3rd base because it it more obvious when you make unusual plays based on the count.