AlexD30
08-25-2004, 03:45 PM
ARNOLD SNYDER (A.K.A. THOMAS HOOVER)
Arnold Snyder is a former mail carrier that worked for the post office for
twenty-three years. During that time Snyder passed himself off as "an
expert on casino systems" although his highest education degree is a "high
school diploma" and he never played Blackjack professionally, nor even
attempted to play more than a $1 or $2 minimum limit table in his entire
life! While Arnold Snyder (Real Name Thomas Hoover, last known addresses
1000 Sunny Hills Ave, Oakland, CA 94610) was working as a $30,000 per year
letter carrier, he was busy using the U.S. mails to send out fraudulent
system representations to any sucker stupid enough to purchase a book or a
system from his con man operations in Oakland California. Snyder
publishes his con man systems and a hysterically fraudulent and clumsy
newsletter under the guise of RGE Publications also found in Oakland
California. Based upon his many years of fraudulent mailings and
representations, and the fact that very few individuals were knowledgeable
enough or would take the time and spend the money to challenge his con man
claims) Snyder prospered. Today, Snyder probably sells more con man snake
oil losing systems on behalf of the casinos than any other con man in his
field.
Meanwhile, Snyder (Hoover) while fraudulently claiming that his worthless
systems could actually beat a real world casino, was also busy secretly
working for the casinos! Snyder's secret casino connections surfaced when
he showed up in a recent lawsuit to testify for the TropWorld Casino
against a card counter that had purchased some of Snyder's books and
systems. Of course Snyder's side lost. Apparently the jury recognized
con men for what they were). The name of the now famous case is "Campione
v. Adamar," and the jury awarded Campione 1.5 million, which they later
overturned, but then the Campione estate settled for a "top secret" cash
amount paid by the casinos to stop the case from being retried.
Yet the most interesting aspects of the operations of these two con men
are their unabashed admittances of their con man operations! During the
aforesaid Capione v. Adamar case in which both Snyder (real name Thomas
Hoover) and Wong (real name John Ferguson) testified for their secret
casino employer, both were required to provide sworn testimony in respect
to their self acclaimed "expertise" in respect to casino games. Some of
their answers to specific questions are quite revealing in respect to their
con man operations. As an example when Lawyer Daily asked Snyder whether
card counters can win, this was his now infamous reply: (Remember
Snyder -Hoover was "under an oath.")
Lawyer Daily Question: "How much advantage can a player obtain by using
one of these systems you sell?"
Snyder's Reply:...."He could be at a disadvantage, very likely would be.
I do not believe card counters can beat the game of blackjack despite the
fact that they might be using valid systems."
Lawyer Daily continues: "You don't believe most card counters can beat the
casino?"
Snyder's sworn reply: "NO!"
Lawyer Daily continues: "And if somebody read your book and mastered the
play set forth in that book, could they, would they have a long range
advantage?
Snyder Sworn Reply: "Probably not."
Daily: "Why not?"
Snyder Sworn Reply: "Obtaining an advantage using card counting in today’s game is difficult or impossible."
So much for the books and software Snyder sells, and his
preposterous claims that you can win "big money" from real world casinos if
you purchase his books and software. Snyder/Solinas (Hoover) is clearly
lying and conning his clients. He says "under oath" that card counters
cannot win even if they are using one of his systems, and that in "real
world" casino conditions the casinos have the right to alter the game in
such a manner as to completely destroy card counting. Yet is Snyder
providing such "disclaimers" to the suckers that are stupid enough to
purchase his books, software, or join his "pay for a con" chat room in
which he provides snake oil testimonials for all of his losing systems?
Not on your life!
ANTHONY CURTIS (A.K.A. KURT FLOWERS -A.K.A. MARTIN STRONG)
One of Snyder's best buddies is another con man that uses the alias
"Anthony Curtis" (Real name Kurt Flowers or Martin Strong) also attempted
to claim that "casinos pay out more in comps than they take in." Moreover,
under oath Kurt said: "So I played craps professionally, I played roulette
professionally, I played Baccarat professionally, ..." Flower's actually
claimed that he could "play these NEGATIVE EXPECTATION games with a
positive expectation." Of course the known mathematical world disagrees
with his nonsensical and preposterous claims. Even the dumbest casino
players already knows that you cannot "turn a negative expectation game
into a positive" one. Moreover, Flowers claimed he had an advantage in
"tournaments" which is another lie, and that he made money playing them.
The late Professor Peter Griffin, who played with Flowers in tournaments
even contradicted Flower's wild claims.
Anthony Curtis's (real name Kurt Flowers) claims are so egregious and
preposterous that Kurt Flowers (A.K.A. Anthony Curtis) really needs a
special mention here - especially since he showed up with Snyder to testify
for the casinos and lied and lied and lied during his sworn depositions.
We have detected so many lies this con man has spewed even under oath that
he indeed deserves a "special mention" for the candidacy of "con man of the
year." We must forget the fact this Kurt Flowers con man is a dwarf, and
is clearly a pathetic sight. Even discounting his depressing physical
disabilities no doubt Kurt fits right in with the "Snyder and Wong" con man
circuses of freaks.
STANFORD WONG, A.K.A. "JOHN FERGUSON"
Stanford Wong (real name John Ferguson, last known addresses: 791 Ivanhoe
Ave, No 34, La Jolla, CA 92037) not only spews the same lies and con man
operations as Arnold Snyder, Wong goes a step further and attempts to sell
and represent Horse Racing, Keno and similar systems as "winning" systems.
Yet when Wong was pressed "under oath" to explain how he can develop such
systems (while the rest of the mathematical world disagrees with his
"claims") this is Wong's sworn reply: Wong made the following statements
under oath when Wong was working for the casinos and testifying against a
card counter.
Wong: "I was going to say that's a difficult one, because that's not what
I'm looking for, for validity. I would say after I have got something that
looks like it should work in theory, I have to be able to go out and do it
myself, or friends of mine have to go out and do it in order for me to say,
yes, it's good enough."
Wong has just stated that he is NOT looking for validity!
You must understand that ANYONE can "conjure up" a so-called "winning
system" using the means Ferguson is using to develop his systems. Any fool
can use "curve fitting" or "hindsight pattern recognition" to develop
so-called winning systems. Unfortunately for the suckers that are foolish
enough to purchase Wong's systems and software, the rest of the
mathematical world knows that such systems "cannot possibly repeat or
duplicate their past performances!" Consequently, Wong is clearly conning
the public with his non-valid "curve fitted" systems. Also listen to what
Wong (Ferguson) says under oath about his "system claims" in respect to
them actually winning money for players:
Wong said under oath: "I would like to give that a no answer, because I
try to be honest in my advertising, but the truth is, when you make claims
of what you would like, you know, when you want your customer to spend some
money with you, there is a way to make money, that is a thing that sells.
I tried selling basic strategy, saying there is a way to lose slower, and I
found there is no market for that."
I bet you Wong & Snyder "clients" actually believed that
Snyder and Wong and Curtis and the rest of the con men were really telling
you that if you purchased systems or software from them you would win money
in a real world casino. Well, when these con men are pressed to back up
their claims in a court of law, under oath, they really start to spin
another tale. So much for "truth in advertising" especially if it is
coming from Stanford Wong.
Wong and Snyder have both stated under oath that you will not and cannot
beat real world casinos. Despite their hype advertisements and con man
fake testimonials they plant on these and their proprietary newsgroups day
and night, the facts are, under oath, these con men are telling you the
same thing I have been telling you for years:
Card counting cannot beat a real world casino! None of the systems these
con men sell will make you profit against real world casinos.
Arnold Snyder is a former mail carrier that worked for the post office for
twenty-three years. During that time Snyder passed himself off as "an
expert on casino systems" although his highest education degree is a "high
school diploma" and he never played Blackjack professionally, nor even
attempted to play more than a $1 or $2 minimum limit table in his entire
life! While Arnold Snyder (Real Name Thomas Hoover, last known addresses
1000 Sunny Hills Ave, Oakland, CA 94610) was working as a $30,000 per year
letter carrier, he was busy using the U.S. mails to send out fraudulent
system representations to any sucker stupid enough to purchase a book or a
system from his con man operations in Oakland California. Snyder
publishes his con man systems and a hysterically fraudulent and clumsy
newsletter under the guise of RGE Publications also found in Oakland
California. Based upon his many years of fraudulent mailings and
representations, and the fact that very few individuals were knowledgeable
enough or would take the time and spend the money to challenge his con man
claims) Snyder prospered. Today, Snyder probably sells more con man snake
oil losing systems on behalf of the casinos than any other con man in his
field.
Meanwhile, Snyder (Hoover) while fraudulently claiming that his worthless
systems could actually beat a real world casino, was also busy secretly
working for the casinos! Snyder's secret casino connections surfaced when
he showed up in a recent lawsuit to testify for the TropWorld Casino
against a card counter that had purchased some of Snyder's books and
systems. Of course Snyder's side lost. Apparently the jury recognized
con men for what they were). The name of the now famous case is "Campione
v. Adamar," and the jury awarded Campione 1.5 million, which they later
overturned, but then the Campione estate settled for a "top secret" cash
amount paid by the casinos to stop the case from being retried.
Yet the most interesting aspects of the operations of these two con men
are their unabashed admittances of their con man operations! During the
aforesaid Capione v. Adamar case in which both Snyder (real name Thomas
Hoover) and Wong (real name John Ferguson) testified for their secret
casino employer, both were required to provide sworn testimony in respect
to their self acclaimed "expertise" in respect to casino games. Some of
their answers to specific questions are quite revealing in respect to their
con man operations. As an example when Lawyer Daily asked Snyder whether
card counters can win, this was his now infamous reply: (Remember
Snyder -Hoover was "under an oath.")
Lawyer Daily Question: "How much advantage can a player obtain by using
one of these systems you sell?"
Snyder's Reply:...."He could be at a disadvantage, very likely would be.
I do not believe card counters can beat the game of blackjack despite the
fact that they might be using valid systems."
Lawyer Daily continues: "You don't believe most card counters can beat the
casino?"
Snyder's sworn reply: "NO!"
Lawyer Daily continues: "And if somebody read your book and mastered the
play set forth in that book, could they, would they have a long range
advantage?
Snyder Sworn Reply: "Probably not."
Daily: "Why not?"
Snyder Sworn Reply: "Obtaining an advantage using card counting in today’s game is difficult or impossible."
So much for the books and software Snyder sells, and his
preposterous claims that you can win "big money" from real world casinos if
you purchase his books and software. Snyder/Solinas (Hoover) is clearly
lying and conning his clients. He says "under oath" that card counters
cannot win even if they are using one of his systems, and that in "real
world" casino conditions the casinos have the right to alter the game in
such a manner as to completely destroy card counting. Yet is Snyder
providing such "disclaimers" to the suckers that are stupid enough to
purchase his books, software, or join his "pay for a con" chat room in
which he provides snake oil testimonials for all of his losing systems?
Not on your life!
ANTHONY CURTIS (A.K.A. KURT FLOWERS -A.K.A. MARTIN STRONG)
One of Snyder's best buddies is another con man that uses the alias
"Anthony Curtis" (Real name Kurt Flowers or Martin Strong) also attempted
to claim that "casinos pay out more in comps than they take in." Moreover,
under oath Kurt said: "So I played craps professionally, I played roulette
professionally, I played Baccarat professionally, ..." Flower's actually
claimed that he could "play these NEGATIVE EXPECTATION games with a
positive expectation." Of course the known mathematical world disagrees
with his nonsensical and preposterous claims. Even the dumbest casino
players already knows that you cannot "turn a negative expectation game
into a positive" one. Moreover, Flowers claimed he had an advantage in
"tournaments" which is another lie, and that he made money playing them.
The late Professor Peter Griffin, who played with Flowers in tournaments
even contradicted Flower's wild claims.
Anthony Curtis's (real name Kurt Flowers) claims are so egregious and
preposterous that Kurt Flowers (A.K.A. Anthony Curtis) really needs a
special mention here - especially since he showed up with Snyder to testify
for the casinos and lied and lied and lied during his sworn depositions.
We have detected so many lies this con man has spewed even under oath that
he indeed deserves a "special mention" for the candidacy of "con man of the
year." We must forget the fact this Kurt Flowers con man is a dwarf, and
is clearly a pathetic sight. Even discounting his depressing physical
disabilities no doubt Kurt fits right in with the "Snyder and Wong" con man
circuses of freaks.
STANFORD WONG, A.K.A. "JOHN FERGUSON"
Stanford Wong (real name John Ferguson, last known addresses: 791 Ivanhoe
Ave, No 34, La Jolla, CA 92037) not only spews the same lies and con man
operations as Arnold Snyder, Wong goes a step further and attempts to sell
and represent Horse Racing, Keno and similar systems as "winning" systems.
Yet when Wong was pressed "under oath" to explain how he can develop such
systems (while the rest of the mathematical world disagrees with his
"claims") this is Wong's sworn reply: Wong made the following statements
under oath when Wong was working for the casinos and testifying against a
card counter.
Wong: "I was going to say that's a difficult one, because that's not what
I'm looking for, for validity. I would say after I have got something that
looks like it should work in theory, I have to be able to go out and do it
myself, or friends of mine have to go out and do it in order for me to say,
yes, it's good enough."
Wong has just stated that he is NOT looking for validity!
You must understand that ANYONE can "conjure up" a so-called "winning
system" using the means Ferguson is using to develop his systems. Any fool
can use "curve fitting" or "hindsight pattern recognition" to develop
so-called winning systems. Unfortunately for the suckers that are foolish
enough to purchase Wong's systems and software, the rest of the
mathematical world knows that such systems "cannot possibly repeat or
duplicate their past performances!" Consequently, Wong is clearly conning
the public with his non-valid "curve fitted" systems. Also listen to what
Wong (Ferguson) says under oath about his "system claims" in respect to
them actually winning money for players:
Wong said under oath: "I would like to give that a no answer, because I
try to be honest in my advertising, but the truth is, when you make claims
of what you would like, you know, when you want your customer to spend some
money with you, there is a way to make money, that is a thing that sells.
I tried selling basic strategy, saying there is a way to lose slower, and I
found there is no market for that."
I bet you Wong & Snyder "clients" actually believed that
Snyder and Wong and Curtis and the rest of the con men were really telling
you that if you purchased systems or software from them you would win money
in a real world casino. Well, when these con men are pressed to back up
their claims in a court of law, under oath, they really start to spin
another tale. So much for "truth in advertising" especially if it is
coming from Stanford Wong.
Wong and Snyder have both stated under oath that you will not and cannot
beat real world casinos. Despite their hype advertisements and con man
fake testimonials they plant on these and their proprietary newsgroups day
and night, the facts are, under oath, these con men are telling you the
same thing I have been telling you for years:
Card counting cannot beat a real world casino! None of the systems these
con men sell will make you profit against real world casinos.