Extremely fast dealer in AC
  • My husband and I went to AC last night and I played a table for the first time using BS. The dealer was VERY fast in dealing the cards....I means SO fast you only had time to look at the dealer card and your own, forget about the other players. In any event I think I did well. I played about 40-50 hands and lost 7. A lot of pushes but the one thing that amazed me was the dealer got 9 BJ's to my one BJ. What I would like to know is, is this common as far as speed and getting that many BJ's? Would it be out of place to ask the dealer to slow down? Any comments would be appreciated. Angelina

    PS. My other question is - where is Stainless Steel Rat????? Your comment also is most certainly welcomed! I miss your posts :(
  • Whenever I get fast dealer, I slow down the pace to such an extent its more interesting watching paint dry.

    As long as the other players on the table are not upsett by this tactic, simply take your time and pine over your decisions whether to hit or stand or split or double, especially if your not a card counter then you have nothing really to fear.

    Remember the dealer is only as fast as you let them !!!!
  • angelina said:
    PS. My other question is - where is Stainless Steel Rat????? Your comment also is most certainly welcomed! I miss your posts :(


    SSR was made to feel unwelcome, so he left.
    http://www.hitorstand.net/forum/showthread.php?p=21539#post21539
  • You know the funny thing was when I had a 20 the dealer basically tried to slide over my hand without me making any type of decision, what I did was gave the stand signal anyway. Next time I will take my time and not let the dealer get so rushed with my hand or the table. I really appreciate your comment and of course welcome others.

    I read the post about SSR and it is so sad that this has happened. He struck me as a very intelligent player that knows his stuff. Being a newbie I always looked to see his response to posts because I wanted fact not fiction. I hope that he comes back, as it was always great to read his stuff!! I guess maybe if he is asked nicely he will :)
  • LOL ... I had a really fast female dealer recently in AC. I mean, she was FAST! I told her that I was "slow" and couldn't make decisions that fast. From that point on I deliberately took my time every time my turn came. And every once ina while I would repeat to her to "slow down," that I couldn't play that fast. LOL. I think she hated me. LOL!
  • The dealer I had looked like she wanted out of there. The poor liitle old lady next to me was totally confused, seemed like she was always a hand behind :)
    I am going to do the same from now on and just be slow, especially running into that situation again. I thought to myself that if I was just beginning to count I would have been in big trouble with her. The one thing I did learn is to watch before I sit at a table to see how the dealer does. It was fun and definitely an eye opener!
  • Haha yeah A.C. is the worst... worst BJ, worst dealers with no personality, worst patrons... and I can go on and on.

    Anyays.. yea when you first start out a "fast dealer" will be overwhelming to you only because you are a beginner. The more you pracitice knowing your BS and Counting method the less intimidating they will be. A good card counter should be able to not have to think about BS, it should just come natural without thinking, and should also be able to count in a fast paced casino environment with distractions.

    Besides, the more hands per minute you can get in a session being a SKILLED counter is more to your benifit. So it pays to get quicker not slower.

    However if you are only a BS player then I always hear slowing down the game works to a BS players benifit. I don't know what the exact "theory" is behind that.

    I say don't waste your time if all you are going to rely on is BS because your are still trying to guess and ride streaks.
  • i_dream_of_Jaynie3367 said:
    Haha yeah A.C. is the worst... worst BJ, worst dealers with no personality, worst patrons... and I can go on and on.

    Anyays.. yea when you first start out a "fast dealer" will be overwhelming to you only because you are a beginner. The more you pracitice knowing your BS and Counting method the less intimidating they will be. A good card counter should be able to not have to think about BS, it should just come natural without thinking, and should also be able to count in a fast paced casino environment with distractions.

    Besides, the more hands per minute you can get in a session being a SKILLED counter is more to your benifit. So it pays to get quicker not slower.

    However if you are only a BS player then I always hear slowing down the game works to a BS players benifit. I don't know what the exact "theory" is behind that.

    I say don't waste your time if all you are going to rely on is BS because your are still trying to guess and ride streaks.



    Well, I am going forth with cc. My ultimate goal is to take out the "Queen of BJ". Counting and the math will no doubt be a challenge but I love challenges :)
    I absolutely kept up with the dealer and made no mistakes on my BS but the time has come to go forth and learn counting. Some may make fun of my ultimate goal of taking out the "Queen" but I feel that the Queen can only reign for so long. Time is patience and that I have a lot of!!

    Angelina
  • i_dream_of_Jaynie3367 said:
    However if you are only a BS player then I always hear slowing down the game works to a BS players benifit. I don't know what the exact "theory" is behind that.


    You alluded to it in your previous paragraph. Fewer hands per hour = fewer $$$ gone per hour.
  • esarem51 said:
    You alluded to it in your previous paragraph. Fewer hands per hour = fewer $$$ gone per hour.


    Yeah but it works both ways...

    I agree that fewer hands per hour = fewer $$$ gone per hour BUT what happens if you have a rotten hour at the tables just playing BS? In that case then you can say that fewer hands per hour = not enough time to try and rebound your losses. That's why I say just playing BS isn't always good enough. Atleast when you add in the counting skill you get a good idea when not to play and when to re-enter play.
  • Hi I just joined. My name is Tonyc. My question to anybody is what is better. Renzey key card count or Renzey ace/ten front count. I know basic strategy well but hate "working" too hard when I am playing. I am considering learning one of these two sytems but don't know which oneto learn. Thanks
  • I never tried those methods. I use the K.O. count method. After you practice it enough there really is no "hard work" involved while playing at the table. Any method you learn should come as easily as reciting your name. If basic strategy and counting don't come quick to you then you haven't practiced enough. All the work comes in the time you put into practicing, reviewing, and drills.

    There are no get rich quick scheems in this world. The more time you put into it, the more you will get out of it. Then you can put what you learned in cruise at the tables. Pick a method and practice practice practice.

    I think that is a misconception for alot of beginners is that counting "is too much work". Not really, like I said its just the time you put in to learning it and practicing it is where all the "work" is.
  • When I was learning I tried the following...

    Method Duration Comment
    KO 1 week Thought it was too difficult. I bought the training software but it was very buggy.

    A-5 Count 1 month Easy to count but I didn't have great results

    Triangle 1 month I think this was some Voodoo system that didn't work

    A/10 Front Count 1 week Easy to count but hard to estimate the number of decks remaining)

    KISS I 1 week Great method, easy to do, quickly wanted to upgrade
    KISS II 2 months I enjoyed adding the index plays to KISS I
    KISS III 10 months Excellent method and it is easy to upgrade KISS counts.

    If I could do it all over again I would start with KISS II minus the index plays.
  • tonyc,
    What is "Renzy key card count"? I have not heard of this.

Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!