New Chips??
  • Went to an Indian Casino yesterday, one that I had last visited back in August.
    Noticed new chips, for years they had a 50 cent piece for the $5 BJ payoff. Now they have $1 and $2.50 chips.
    Then noticed a new button on the table close to the side of the shoe (6 deck shoe game). It was not very obvious, just set to the dealer’s side of the shoe toward the back of the table, pushed against the shoe. After the bets were down, as the dealer swept her hand back to get the first card for the round from the shoe, she would push the button. You had to watch her hand or you would not have seen it. Thus just before each round, the button was pushed.
    Later, when a dealer was just standing at an empty table I asked what the button was for. She wasn’t really sure, but thought it tells the computer how much each player has bet.
    Any one have an idea what they are doing?? Are these the new RF chips?
  • sage01 said:
    Went to an Indian Casino yesterday, one that I had last visited back in August.
    Noticed new chips, for years they had a 50 cent piece for the $5 BJ payoff. Now they have $1 and $2.50 chips.
    Then noticed a new button on the table close to the side of the shoe (6 deck shoe game). It was not very obvious, just set to the dealer’s side of the shoe toward the back of the table, pushed against the shoe. After the bets were down, as the dealer swept her hand back to get the first card for the round from the shoe, she would push the button. You had to watch her hand or you would not have seen it. Thus just before each round, the button was pushed.
    Later, when a dealer was just standing at an empty table I asked what the button was for. She wasn’t really sure, but thought it tells the computer how much each player has bet.
    Any one have an idea what they are doing?? Are these the new RF chips?



    That is a common way to use RFID, which is what it sounds like they are doing. It is becoming a bit more common, I first saw it in Vegas aabout a year and a half ago. There are "holes" in that system however, that can be exploited.
  • They will know when your driving into valet parking. I don't know if AP's will register for player's cards in the future. Trouble for Hosts also. They are not allowed to accept chip tips from their clients today, but they all currently accept them. I'm sure all posts concerning FRID's will be read by casinos in every popular bj forums today.
  • Blackjack strategy is not how the cards are played, but how the bets are played. Global Warming is making it's way toward blackjack. I understand that the game has lasted for hundreds of years, but since Thorpe's book it has gone downhill. Yes, many have made money since the early sixties playing the counting game and BS, but this to shall come to pass. I keep thinking about Grif's basic departure from the game to poker. I can't get it out of my mind. Here, a true professional is giving up a game he has mastered for over 30 years for a new game. Why? This is what I keep asking over and over. Corporations are not going continue to use bug spray in an attempt to increase profits, they are going to put an end to the bugs. Playing against the house days will be over within the next couple of years, and then the only game left will be poker. Period. I know I'm going get flack over this, but just open your eyes and the future is quite easy to see.
  • jimpenn said:
    Blackjack strategy is not how the cards are played, but how the bets are played. Global Warming is making it's way toward blackjack. I understand that the game has lasted for hundreds of years, but since Thorpe's book it has gone downhill. Yes, many have made money since the early sixties playing the counting game and BS, but this to shall come to pass. I keep thinking about Grif's basic departure from the game to poker. I can't get it out of my mind. Here, a true professional is giving up a game he has mastered for over 30 years for a new game. Why? This is what I keep asking over and over. Corporations are not going continue to use bug spray in an attempt to increase profits, they are going to put an end to the bugs. Playing against the house days will be over within the next couple of years, and then the only game left will be poker. Period. I know I'm going get flack over this, but just open your eyes and the future is quite easy to see.



    Jim... Perhaps you are reading more into Grif's decision than is there. It is not that 21 is unplayable today. It is more a matter of the fact that you can play poker against a huge host of amateurs and have a truly huge advantage over them. The casinos take advantage of the real amateurs at all games, including 21. But in poker _you_ get to take advantage of them.

    It is just a matter of moving to where the grass truly is greener on the other side, not that it is not still green under the 21 tables...

    Shoot, if I entered a casino, and saw a dealer with a mechanical arm running the "big wheel" and I noticed that every time he spins it, it lands about 60 degrees farther around than where it started, after making several revolutions, then I'd stop playing 21 and go over there to exploit a much larger advantage while it lasts...

    I believe that is what Grifter is doing. Others are also doing it. Assuming the hold-em rage burns off after a few years, he might well be back at the 21 tables. :)

    But what he is doing is a perfect example of "advantage play"... If he were my son, I'd be proud of 'im... :)

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