Hedonist said:Am trying to establish how Oscar's G wld function if played within limits as suggested, being one of the best systems around.
For eg. if stop loss was 100 units and one were to stop after winning 20 units each time, how many times would one win 20 units before one loss of a 100 units?
Could anyone fill me in on this?
Hedonist said:Thanks a mil for the direct-to-the-point and very easy to understand reply!! In 2 mins I now confirm my fears....that Oscar too is a losing system, and EVEN if it loses once in a way, if that day tragically appears at the very outset, ure a goner! Just one clarification here:- do stats indicate that with a 500 unit capital, starting with a bet of 1 unit, and goin for a win for a 100 units per session, that Oscar would have lost once in about 5000 sessions, OR once after winning about 5000 single units?
I've tried a lotta systems in the past, incl one which I dont read abt, named "The Tortoise", which was the recommended system of an author of a book on roulette, written in the 1920's.... here u had to play in series of 3's:- if you lost 3 series of 1, ud then start playing with 2's, and if you lost 3 series of 2's and 4's u'd try recovering with 8's, unless u lost 3 of those too, when ud start with 16....just another system that finally succumbs to the house edge!...and I've lost so much money with all those and ruined so many holidays, often losing more than I spent on the holiday, and quarreling with those around me to boot!
Which would then mean the only way of having a good chance of winning at the tables would be counting, but am I right if I were to say this would require some amount of mathematical capability and dexterity, and is not for anyone with a poor aptitude in that regard?
As for me, I'm average at math, so if I were to use the Simplified Blackjack Basic Strategy suggested by Mr. Arnold Snyder, and use the Hi-Lo counting system, would it suffice? In this regard, I would imagine that a +1 in a 1 deck game, would be equivalent to a +4 in a 4 deck game? Besides is there a case for using this kind of counting system in conjunction with an Oscar or a Fibonacci? Considering I'm not particularly adept at math, may I request you to suggest a balanced approach to the above, or what you think would be the best way to go about playing blackjack?
Your simple and lucid answer has probably saved me any more chagrin, I was contemplating giving online gambling a shot, which I will NOT now, once again I thank you loads!
Franco.
Hedonist said:I'd appreciate any input on the following:-
For a novice who's just started out with the basic strategy, coupled with the hi-lo system, but has not been able to master both, and yet wants to try his hands on the tables, what are the elements to be most particular about in the basic strategy, which offer a significant advantage, and which are the aspects that are not as relevant as the others, and could be mastered in due course?....for instance, if one has an eleven, doubling seems a tangible advantage. On the other hand, if one were to goof on surrender, it probably wouldn't matter all that much....so knowing full well that all tenets of the basic strategy should be followed per se, for purposes of interest, which components are of primary importance and which are the least important ones?
stainless steel rat said:I just can't see telling anyone to play a losing system that will increase your rate of losing. Would you voluntarily pay a movie theater 15 bucks to see a movie when they only charge 10 bucks for the ticket?
Grifter said:No, I did not overlook variance. But for twenty hours of play with those two methods it is essentially moot.......Now to your statement above.
Stainless, I realize you are a computer guy and numbers oriented but once in a while back off from that computer and look a the practical side of things. I am not advocating progressions, I was stressing yesterday that for recreational play conservative ones are not nearly as bad as you (and others) make them sound. As I illustrated yesterday, the difference is DIDDLY SQUAT ($6.70) for twenty hours of play........From your statement above, you obviously do not agree, but what don't you see? So let's forget my analogy and use yours about the tickets.........YOU make the decision with an answer to this simple question:
There are two events going on in your area next weekend. Both of these events last for twenty hours.
- Event A: The tickets cost $10, but the whole 20 hours were be extremely boring.
- Event B: The tickets cost $15, but you know you will have more enjoyment, fun, and recreation.
Which event will you attend, Stainless?
Regards.....Grifter
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