Counting DOES work
  • Okay, I've been working with the KISS I counting system and boy am I impressed. First ever since I've heard that counting 'doesn't work agains't a six deck shoe' blah blah I almost gave up but continued to practice anyway.

    Well the other night I went in with a small amount of money to finally give it a try ($60) and I found a decent shoe with 2 players. Well I waited till the shuffle and counted behind the scenes. Waited till the count rose to 21 and jumped in and played, at the end of the shoe I was $100 dollars ahead. I flat betted the next shoe lost ten bucks than left. I continued doing this for roughly an hour but instead of staying at the same casino I moved on to the next one but didn't find very many advantagous shoes available so I called it a night. My betting was $5 to $15 a hand.

    Counting does indeed work. You just got to be patient with it. An important note is that this method seems to annoy the 'avarage' player who have no idea of what I am actually doing. Patience seems to be the key here and persistance. Alot of gamblers believe the 'order is sacred' which is such a bunch of crap.

    I got backed of just watching by not the casino but by a player at this five dollar minium table. Told me that I was a 'jinx' or some superstitious crap like that. It was really funny. I guess he played craps alot because blackjack doesn't work like that.
  • Do you mean you back counted the shoe and then jumped in? Then in and out of play during the shoe while still at the table? If so, I'm surprised they would allow you to do that, due to a no mid shoe rule some places have. (That's probably not what you meant though) I know that mathematically it would not make any difference for you to do that, but, I must admit that would bother me too. I wouldn't call you names for it though! :lol:
  • I believe in the "management by wandering" style of play.... I wander around a bit looking for good play at tables. Seems to help. Though I don't care much for Jerry Patterson, I have found ONE rule of his to be of value... "Don't sit at a losing table".

    If you see the house smacking the players around with both sides getting decent hands, don't sit there. If you see the players getting stiffs (12 to 17) with a face card, while the dealer shows a face card, don't sit there. If that chip rack looks full, its for a reason. A depleted rack tells a different tale, as does one being refilled.
  • Nickels_n_Bullets said:
    I believe in the "management by wandering" style of play.... I wander around a bit looking for good play at tables. Seems to help. Though I don't care much for Jerry Patterson, I have found ONE rule of his to be of value... "Don't sit at a losing table".

    If you see the house smacking the players around with both sides getting decent hands, don't sit there. If you see the players getting stiffs (12 to 17) with a face card, while the dealer shows a face card, don't sit there. If that chip rack looks full, its for a reason. A depleted rack tells a different tale, as does one being refilled.


    Amen,
    I've had dealers tell me I should not play them right now, and I did anyway, YOU KNOW WHAT??? Listen to them..

    Mike
  • Heh, all the games I've played don't mind it when I jump in because they are six deck shoes. Could care less because they believe it is impossable to count down a six dec shoe but it isn't at all with the KISS I count.

    I usuaully only play when it is favorable. whenever the count goes up to 20 I jump in. This way it seems to work a lot better than just playing like every other avarage player.

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