playing in NY
  • in just over 2 weeks I will be making a trip to the Turning Stone casino in New York. this will be my first time playing in a casino. i have memorized basic strategy and I am learning several card counting methods. This first trip will be more to get a feel for playing in a casino than anything else, and I'm not even sure if I will count my first time at the tables. Can anyone give me some of the specifics of the games at the TS (#of decks, rule variations, etc.) The only information I have been able to gather so far is that they have DD games and you are allowed to double after splitting. I know that BS for AC and LV games are slightly different, so is there anything else I should know which may effect the basic strategy I use? thanks
  • Turning Stone BJ rules:
    S17
    3/2
    DOA
    DAS
    Ins.

    Pairs split 3X

    Best of Cards,

    Jim
  • jimpenn said:
    Turning Stone BJ rules:
    S17
    3/2
    DOA
    DAS
    Ins.

    Pairs split 3X

    Best of Cards,

    Jim

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  • I used to be subscribed but recently quit. I just did a google and found this info. What I don't know is how many decks they use. I have never been there and this is the best I could find out.

    Best, Jim
  • Last I heard confirms... My experiences there are 8D, and fast dealers.

    Good Cards,
  • just to make sure i'm reading this correctly: dealer stands on all 17s, BJ pays 3:2, you can double on anything, you can double after splitting, and you can take insurace, and you can split pairs 3 times. correct?


    thanks


    jimpenn said:
    Turning Stone BJ rules:
    S17
    3/2
    DOA
    DAS
    Ins.

    Pairs split 3X

    Best of Cards,

    Jim
  • Thats about it... and ask if you get 16 vs. dealer 10 if you can surrender... last time there, the answer was no.
  • ok sounds good.. also, you said they've got 8D games. On the Turning Stone website they have blackjack listed and they have DD blackjack listed..do they do, still have DD games or is this outdated? If they do, how are they? thanks again.
  • also, do you happen to know what the table minimums are? thanks
  • at turning stone during the morning and early afternoon weekdays they usually have several $5 min tables weekends they usually only have one $5 min which is usually a handicap. evenings $10 min and up
    on show nights most tables are $15 and up with maybe 1-2 $10 tables
    they do still have DD but only one table and it is in pit one high stakes i believe the min is $100.00
  • what do you mean when you say the one $5 table is a handicap?
  • probably crowded (full) all the time.

    I'm amazed that the pits don't notice this more. I've walked thru the MGM, for example, and all the $10 tables are full, the $25, $50 and $100 tables are empty or have one player, during the morning/middle of the day. 7 * 10 is a bigger number than 1 * 25 or 1 * 50. Someone can't do math.
  • I like this type of math, RAT. Even with bad rules, someone's dropped the statistical ball. Full tables almost always equals more cash-flow to the house. Now if we can only have this apply to ANY 6:5 game....
  • the handicap tables are lower tables for wheelchair access. any one can sit at these tables but if the table is full and someone that is handicapped comes to the table the last person that sat down (thats not handicap) has to leave the table
  • Dealers don't grow on trees. It's a matter of schedule vs traffic and
    all casinos have the problem. I've seen very few on demand table
    availability. Logistic will always be a problem regardless of industry.
    Another reason for automation, "just in time delivery", "lage scale
    computer integration", "robotics", etc. Don't complain, less we get
    our wish......................

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