KISS Counting System
  • I've been hearing a lot of good things about the KISS card counting systems. I would like to know what makes the system special? How does it work and how does it compare to High/Low and other systems like Wong Halves or Hi-Opt? I've been debating whether I should buy Blackjack Blue Book II by Renzey or Proffesional Blackjack by Wong. Any suggestions??
  • I have both books and definitely recommend Renzey's Bluebook II. The KISS system is easy to learn and implement in the casino. Renzey does a great job explaining the system. My second favourite book is probably Arnold Snyder's Blackbelt in Blackjack.
  • could u please tell me the values given to each card in KISS II and KISS III? so i can judge how simple it is and whether or not i should switch to it.
  • KISS II

    A 0
    10 - K -1
    9 0
    8 0
    7 0
    6 +1
    5 +1
    4 +1
    3 +1
    Black 2 +1
    Red 2 0

    KISS III

    A -1
    10 - K -1
    9 0
    8 0
    7 +1
    6 +1
    5 +1
    4 +1
    3 +1
    Black 2 +1
    Red 2 0

    With 6 deck game you start your count at 9 and you start to increase your bet when ever you get a count of 20 or higher.
  • thanks skunk, when u said in a six deck game u start your count at 9 and increase your betting when u reach 20 did you mean the true count or just the running count. i hate calculating the true count and if there's any way around it please explain thanks.
  • The beauty of the KISS counts is that you don't have to do a true count conversion. The KISS counts are unbalanced. The black 2's help gauge how many decks are left automatically. Thus you only ever have to work with a running count.

    Using KISS III (6deck), I start with an initial running count of '9'. You are at a true count of +2 whenever the count is '22'.
  • thanks skunk, im trying to get a hold of renzey's book as soon as i can, too bad the chapters close to where i live hasnt restocked it for 2 weeks :?

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