BuGhOu§eMASTER said:Okay, then would you mind explaining Bernulli's Formula to me, which states everything COMPLETELY contradictory to you and Renzey as I last posted?
Ted said::idea: Man, I am way out of my league in this discussion, but I think I understand the disagreement. The odds on any streak, winning or losing, diminish as the the streak continues. But, in a given hand, you have a 43% chance of winning that hand regardless of whether you are in the midst of a streak or not. The streak % is not related to the odds of a given hand.
Ted said:When exactly is his spot. How many hands would have to be played before a counter feels the deck is rich in 10's. How many 10's would have to left so that a counter would consider the shoe "rich" in 10's? How many times in a given shoe would a counter make his big move?
Ted said:Just my first question for now. Would a counter be most likely to make his move 8 times during a shoe or 2 times? Would it be unusual for a counter not to make any moves at all during a shoe because the shoe was never rich in 10's?
Grifter said:... And it is not as difficult as it appears, especially the 'running count' portion. You use a cancellation method to make it simpler (i.e. look at two cards at a time, say each player's up cards. Let's say player 1 has a K and a 3....they cancel. One quick look and go to the next player. Say he has a Q and 4...they cancel. Your own hand has a 6 and a 5....+2, etc., etc.)
Try it yourself with a single deck. Turn the cards over two at a time and add/subtract them in groups of two.
Ted said:
I am beginning to believe that counting may very well give a player an advantage over the house, but the counter himself must have an extraordinary mind....
Renzey said:While practicing, you need to be able to count down a full single deck in 30 seconds to be quick enough for live action. If the full Hi/Lo Count is stopping you from achieving this, then lop off some cards for now. Just go with the 4's, 5's and 6's against the Jacks, Queens and Kings. It's not as strong, but will still yield you a net edge. Later, if you get real comfortable with that you can then add the 3 and the 10-spot to your count structure. For some further simplifications presented in clear detail, see "the KISS Count" chapters in B/J Bluebook II. KISS stands for "Keep It Simple, Stupid".
Ted said:Dawg, you ask if you could "ignore the black deuces". To someone like me who has no clue about counting, and I assume you are talking about counting, that you are asking Fred if it would be OK to ignore the black deuces. So, in my blissful ignorance I say to myself that Dawg doesn't want to include the black deuces while he is counting for whatever reasons. So I ask myself what difference it could possibly make if he didn't count the "red deuces" instead. As usual I probably have this whole thing screwed up.
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