I think i am going to have to discourage you. as a married guy who is always trying to convince his wife, i understand your plight.
Labouchere's progression, like any negative progression, will win most of the time. you are wise in capping your losses using labby. but honestly, you will probably win. you've heard it before "many paths to smaller wins, fewer paths to large losses"

BUT, most negative progressions, and Labby especially, get into some large bets quickly. 2000 just isnt enough money to justify that large of a beginning wager. if you want to be safe, start much smaller. and if you want to be even safer, use a "safer" negative progression, like oscar's grind, if you insist on using a negative progression.

now, as a rule i dont discourage people from trying out their systems... it can only benefit everyone else... but i would try it on a miniature scale first, and then move into the money. but like i say, you could go a very long time without losing, maybe your whole life. on teh other hand, a bad run could ruin you very quickly. but i wouldn't imagine that you actually have an advantage playing with this system... you are just hoping that you dont catch that "few paths to catastrophic losses" thing. after all, labby, in essence is just a slowed down martingale. the more room you have to breath the better off youre going to be.

one final note. don't you find labby difficult to follow? you might as well just count cards... for me they take about teh same amount of concentration.

i guess its sort of a combination.

but if you are ahead, you wouldnt raise your bet. so i see it as a negative progression. you are raising your bets to get out of hole... but only after a win at the lower bet level.

eddiebo said:

Hey JM,



A question for you. . . In Hoyle, there is no button to re-shuffle. So, when I want a new deck (or new table), I just hit the "Go To / Blackjack" and (at least in my mind) I get a brand new table. Do you do this?

Good Luck!

Yup, I do this after the 4 Quit Points, or when starting a new session. Or after getting thoroughly disgusted!

Thanks for the Good Luck, I'm sure I will need it!

I just though of a stupid question I need to know before trying my folly. Anyone know what the chip denominations are in Indian Casinos? Are they different? This would be the Foxwoods and the Mohegan in Connecticut. I mean, how are they broken down? Sounds stupid, but for the Labby it helps to know, and I don't want to get caught unawares tomorrow.

Thanks

Drew...... Let's just agree that is a "hybrid".....G

Jim... there is one difference between the 2 casinos.

Foxwoods has a $2.50 (pinky) used for odd $ bet 21's. ($25 Blackjack pays 1 green, 2 red, 1 pinky). Do not use them for betting, unless you have 2 of them (or 4,6,8,etc). It is proper to tip with them, but dont use them as a 'bet for the dealer'. Also has $1 white chips.

Mohegan uses $1 tokens (the exact same as used in slots) and 50c pieces to pay off odd $ bets.

Denominations are $1, $5, $25, $100, $500 in the general casino area.
Colors are white, red, green, black, and purple respectively.

DO NOT USE chips from the other casino!

N&B

ps. Mohegan has a coffee club offer mailing this is GREAT for off-hours play! (AM Mon-Th) Just got mine Mon. $5 off breakfast buffet every day till 4/30/03 Free 'coffee and' in the exclusive coffee shops in the new mall.

Nickels_n_Bullets said:

Do not use them for betting, unless you have 2 of them (or 4,6,8,etc).

And why not? It's still chips, isn't it? Where I play, at Isle of Capri in Lake Charles, they have all the denominations you stated except it goes above $500, $1000 (ORANGE) and $5000 (GRAY) chips... I dont think I've seen the Gray chips yet... maybe one day I'll get to actually PLAY with them!!

Yeah, similarly when they pay you an extra 25 cents on a BJ winning hand when you had a 2.50 chip there, hahaha.

Some dealers are @$$hole PUNKS who I just want to spit on there face but just ask them to change it up and they SHOULD... if not then get the Manager to chew'em out... they will learn eventually.

BUNCH OF UNDERPAID PHAGS.

'So, if I sit down and buy in for $500, is it ridiculous to ask for it in $25s? If I get $100s, will the dealer make "change" from say a $75 bet? Does any of that draw attention?'

No, not at all... its pretty much standard.
Yes.
Yes, dealer will call 'change 100' when you color down from black to green.

Betting black chips usually gets a 'black action' call from the dealer... some times the boss peeks in.

If the boss/dealer notice progression rather than count.... things should be OK.

N&B

JM, (or do you prefer JM2552?) usually a dealer will ask, "How would you like that?" when you buy in. If you buy in for $500, it's fine to ask for 5 black, 3 black and 8 green, all green, or even "mix it up: black, green and red". All of the above are fine and normal. If you ask for "all red", you might get some resistance, since the dealer does not want to deplete all of his red chips and have to get a refill.

If you bet 4 green, the dealer might give you back one black. Cynics will say this is to get you to bet more, others will say he's trying to not deplete all his green chips. It's no big deal.

Don't be shy about asking for change. Seasoned pros do this by tossing a chip beyond the insurance box toward the dealer. The dealer will automatically give you change. Often, not a word is spoken.

Don't worry about putting a large stack of chips in the betting box - or mixing up red and green. Dealers can handle it.

But definately be nice to dealers - they can help you. Some will catch you when you make mistakes. And they can make playing very pleasant.

Unless you buy in for less than $100, most people use hundred dollar bills. Just go to the bank ahead of time and change your 20's into 100's.

Ain't this forum fun!

jm, That's where it pays to tip and/or be nice to the dealers. They will pause or make eye contact when you have a brain fart. Of course, sometimes they will do this when you make a correct Basic Strategy play.