Aceten said:Okay Mr. Renzey I will say that is another impressive set of numbers that I cannot dispute. My whole argument on this though, is the human factor. We all know numbers will add up on paper perfectly. But lets say one of these counters is doing everything right, but after 100 hours of play he's down $4400. With your calculations this is very possible. I'd be willing to bet this guy will abandon ship way before he gets to 1000 hours. Hell, I'd bet he'd have been questioning the system after losing only $2000. Real life needs more than calculated numbers. You can't perform experiments in a vacuum the results on paper are true, but highly in accurate. You could say a human could get into a rocket and travel for 500 years and land on jupiter and on paper that would be correct. But is it feasible, of course not. Just like most counters will not be up to those figures you stated due to human emotion, frustration and error. I built houses for 34 years. I worked with many smart architects and engineers, their plans always worked on paper. Many more times than I'd care to remember though, their brilliant ideas were just not feasible in the field. Whether it was due to site conditions, or just cost effectiveness, whatever the written plan didn't cut it . So yes counters can make some money, but most I believe won't make it that far.
unclenorm said:Mr Renzey I like the ASSUME factor.... My honest opinion of most Blackjack theories are like the "Anderson's" doing roofs for the elderly..... B/S is close to being right and if followed will give you a chance.... but in multiple decks even B/S is risky. The book sellers like to talk about counting but again you have to ASSUME to many things.... Gambling is gambling and you will never change that by any method. I am going to play again on Friday, by the way I play 3 to 4 times per week depending on if I win or lose. I doubt anyone on this board plays any more than I do. On Friday I am going to ASSUME to win a little money. I also am ASSUMING that I might lose a little money.
I ASSUME that I will post on this site another time..
UncleNorm the ASSUMER
Aceten said:Okay Mr. Renzey I will say that is another impressive set of numbers that I cannot dispute. My whole argument on this though, is the human factor. We all know numbers will add up on paper perfectly. But lets say one of these counters is doing everything right, but after 100 hours of play he's down $4400. With your calculations this is very possible. I'd be willing to bet this guy will abandon ship way before he gets to 1000 hours. Hell, I'd bet he'd have been questioning the system after losing only $2000. Real life needs more than calculated numbers. You can't perform experiments in a vacuum the results on paper are true, but highly in accurate. You could say a human could get into a rocket and travel for 500 years and land on jupiter and on paper that would be correct. But is it feasible, of course not. Just like most counters will not be up to those figures you stated due to human emotion, frustration and error. I built houses for 34 years. I worked with many smart architects and engineers, their plans always worked on paper. Many more times than I'd care to remember though, their brilliant ideas were just not feasible in the field. Whether it was due to site conditions, or just cost effectiveness, whatever the written plan didn't cut it . So yes counters can make some money, but most I believe won't make it that far.
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