Read your thread with interest rodorange. You say your ace-ten front count is fast and accurate but you lose count after 3to 5 rounds.It seems to me you either need to pratice more or maybe switch to an unbalenced count until you perfect your skill level. While the hi-opt I is a good system, if you can not follow it all the way through the shoe then it is no good, no system is.I know when I started learning to count I found it confusing having to convert from running count to true count. While you will lose some accuracy it should be made up somewhat by the fact you can keep count all the way through the shoe and help you avoid mistakes. It also should not matter where you sit at the table as far as counting goes although I also prefer to sit at the 1 or 7 spot.The main thing is dont give up.rdorange said:I've been playing blackjack now for a few years in Biloxi, LV and on cruises. Mostly the $5.00 and $10.00 minimum tables with an occasional trip to the $25.00 tables. I play using the multiple deck, dealer stands on soft 17 basic strategy and adjust my play according to some advanced play adjustments. My betting system is based on a combination of counting as long as possible and then (when I lose the count) change over to an adjusted style of progression betting. I watch for hi and lo card groups and count best I can (not so good yet). I use the Ace-Ten counting trainer. My accuracy is always 100% and speed is great. When I'm in the casinos, I have to sit at first base in order to keep an accurate count. I have to move and arrange chips to keep up with the running count from round to round. I always seem to lose track after about three, four or five rounds. The count after these early rounds does not affect the (early) shoe very much. The counts seem to affect the shoe most when you get to the end of the shoe when the cards are concentrated. By that time I have long lost count! My dilemma: I'm using the hi-opt I, because it appears to be the easiest counting system to learn. Later, I will have to graduate to a more advanced system. If I try to learn a more complicated system, I'm concerned that I will be disappointed or discouraged with my progress, or the lack there of, and just quit. Is it hard to switch from one counting system to another?
PROGRESSIONIST said:never in a million years did i ever see myself counting cards. then came blackjack bluebook II into my life and things have never been the same again! thank you Fred!
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rdorange said:Well, I went to Biloxi this past week. The last three trips combined, I was ahead by $900. During this two-day trip, I lost $500. I am still ahead, but I could not win on this trip to save my life! I tried to count and still had problems. I never got a positive count the whole time I was there.
I had several times at the tables when I would win and lose, but was losing more! Then eventually would lose four in a row and get up and leave. After this happened several times, I thought about a post I read recently. Is it more logical to lose four in a row and get up and change tables only to lose four in a row again, or is it more logical to stay at the same table and lose twelve in a row? That is not as likely to happen, Huh? Eventually I stayed and still was losing. The luck of the draw just wasnt there.
Getting a positive count does not guarantee you are going to win, just as a negative count does not mean you are going to lose. I had better luck on the craps table betting the dark side!
I will practice a lot more and keep on trying.
By the way, I can still use help with alternative methods for counting and tracking round to round! Thanks all!
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