Couple Questions
  • Ok, amateur counter here, with a few questions.

    1. In BJ, and specifically in shoe games, if the decks are not shuffled properly, is there a better chance of good shoes following good shoes (or bad following bad) with more consistency?

    The reason I ask is because the casino I frequent (Small casino in Slovenia, 6D, 3:2, S17, DD any 1st 2 cards, DD after split, Splits up to 3x, Split A's but no action afterwards) has excellent penetration and good rules, but the dealers are nowhere near professional. Most of them work part time, while studies occupy the remainder of their time. When they shuffle, I often see clumps of cards that never get shuffled together, and they put them back in the shoe this way. Once the new shoe is dealt, I notice that if there were A's clumped together in the previous shoe, they are still coming out in close to the same clumps. So when I play 10 shoes or so, it always seems like the good shoes follow each other, and so do the bad.

    I am familiar with the concept of shuffle tracking, and using the cut card to ones advantage, but I've never read any books or done any extensive reading on the subject, so if any shuffle trackers can shed some light here, please do.

    2. Where can I find indices for a wide variety of counting methods? I like when they are in color if possible.

    3. Splitting 8's.....Do you still split 8's (and resplit if necessary) against and unchecked A? Im not sure if BS wants me to split 8's only when the dealer checks or when she does not, or if it matters either way.
  • 1. look for "The shuffle-tracker's cookbook" by Arnold Snyder. But in your case, you can ignore the dealer's shuffling, and just count normally and play the same way. If you get into tracking, then the worse the shuffle, the better you can do, but it takes a lot of work, to be sure.

    2. Sounds like ENHC (European Np Hole Card) where the dealer does not check for BJ until after everyone has finished playing. There is a basic strategy for this game that is different from the normal BS. And there are playing indices as well, that take this into consideration. But basically in ENHC games, you certainly split and double less against an Ace than with normal BS, because of the 4/13 chance that the dealer will have a 21 after you have split and doubled and you lose it all.
  • Indices have the same relative meaning accross counting systems. They reflect the possible strength of your advantage/disadvantage and alterations you should make to B/S because the odds have shifted. However, they are not universally the same as for as numbers. By that I mean, a High-Low number of +2 true may be the same as +4, +8, 21, etc of some other system, but mean the same as for playing your hand (index) and betting. Running counts are different because of the value given to different cards. Thus, running count divided by decks that remain may give different numbers as the true count. Some avoid true count numbers all-together, but even those have an equivalent number relationship.

    Best advice is to select a good system and learn the indices for that system and you will do just fine.
  • thanks a ton, I was using the wrong BS all along

    the correct BS can be generated here:

    Any BS can be generated here.

    Anyway, there are differences, I hope this BS is right.

    thanks for the eye-opener(s)

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