Why hit 12 vs 3 (dealer)?
  • Why should I hit a 12 vs 3 (dealer)?
  • cause thats what BS says to do, the math has been proven

    different story for counters though
  • On that particular one I would look really closely at what has come out. If there have been a lot of tens that have comeout I would grit my teeth and hit it. If there where a lot of small cards to come out I would just stay. It is a very close call ads maybe 1 percent if the count is zero or negative. But it probably cost you if the count is positive!
  • hey uh learningtocount

    could you lay off the !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    but yeah its a close call, use your index

    live and die by them
  • Pcristiani - In rounded numbers, if you stand with 12 vs. 3 one hundred times, you'll win those 37 times when the dealer breaks and lose the other 63 times -- finishing 26 hands behind.

    If you hit, on average you'll win 36, lose 59 and push 5, finishing 23 behind.

    In a shoe game, just looking at the cards on board will virtually never give you enough information to make standing correct, since you'll need to see at least 11 more babies than 10's to do it.
  • Renzey,

    I'm almost positive I'm getting your book, I've gone through a couple of them and yours seams to stand out Blackjack Bluebook II.

    I just started to get into BJ, I went to Vegas for a business trip and won some money with only BS so that kinda helped me get into it.

    Do you think it's possible to have BJ as a part-time job, that when you know enough you'll win a considerable amount more than what you loose? I read some say you can others say you can only do it for fun as you will loose always.

    Which skills will I have to master in order to have it as a "part time job"?

    Thanks for the info!
  • Whenever the "stigma" of Job gets associated with any task I seem to be doing, it always seems to become work, Thus, removing any "fun" that might have been involved. Maybe just a superstition, but, why ruin a good thing?
    mh




    pcristiani said:
    Renzey,

    I'm almost positive I'm getting your book, I've gone through a couple of them and yours seams to stand out Blackjack Bluebook II.

    I just started to get into BJ, I went to Vegas for a business trip and won some money with only BS so that kinda helped me get into it.

    Do you think it's possible to have BJ as a part-time job, that when you know enough you'll win a considerable amount more than what you loose? I read some say you can others say you can only do it for fun as you will loose always.

    Which skills will I have to master in order to have it as a "part time job"?

    Thanks for the info!
  • pcristiani said:
    Renzey,

    I'm almost positive I'm getting your book, I've gone through a couple of them and yours seams to stand out Blackjack Bluebook II.

    I just started to get into BJ, I went to Vegas for a business trip and won some money with only BS so that kinda helped me get into it.

    Do you think it's possible to have BJ as a part-time job, that when you know enough you'll win a considerable amount more than what you loose? I read some say you can others say you can only do it for fun as you will loose always.

    Which skills will I have to master in order to have it as a "part time job"?

    Thanks for the info!


    Not Renzey here, but I have been using blackjack or other advantage plays as additional income for over 25 years now. It is still enjoyable but there again I also enjoy what I do to earn my living.
    It gets harder as the number of playable games has decreased and there are expenses of travel involved.
    You need a good count system that you can play perfectly. You should only play good games and you need a way to create longevity at the good games. Learn about how things are done in casinos (the things that effect you), ability to read the pit, know what kind of surviellance equipment they might use for evaluation, I could go on but the more you know about the casino you play in, the better your chance of winning and being able to stay and return.
    Though dealers and pits move from casino to casino quite often, I keep a book on them. There are lists of weak dealers, lists of dealers who I know count, dealers who want to move up the casino food chain, names of some pits children or grandchildren (great for friendly conversations), hobbies of pit types and anything that I have found useful in either the game or my longevity.

    You also need, depending on what level you are betting, a good sized bankroll as no matter how accomplished you become the nature of the game will beat you up at times.

    You need the guts to spread properly even when the house is kicking your butt.
    You need time. Your real business and your family should not suffer because you are playing.
    If you are thinking of only playing 1 or 2 local casinos and making a part time income from these, it would really take special circumstances for your lifetime win not to effect your chances to continue to play. I had a circumstance like that in a certain Vegas casino and it was great, but a simple change in one management position ended that.

    ihate17
  • pcristiani - I think I hate17 gave you lots of excellent advice. To highlight what I think are the main points:
    You need a decent count system that you can play comfortably and accurately.
    You need to play in a way that you appear to be just another sucker.
    You need a master bankroll of about 100 maximum bets. Better yet if that bankroll is replenishable.
    You need to be satisfied with the reality that long term, you'll probably net around 1 minimum bet per hour (in a shoe game spreading 1-to-10), but on each play day, your win or loss will average about 40 minimum bets.
    Understand that even after 500 hours of play, there's still around a 20% chance that you'll be behind.
    In summary, in order to succeed, it needs to be a passionate hobby like golf or bowling is for some. Except with this hobby they pay you to play on about 58% of your days and the other 42% of the time, you pay them.
  • Blackjack Bluebook II will return cost faster than any book I've read to date. I've read it twice and did another review last night prior to a trip I'm leaving today. Section on hand interactions paid for my book the first trip I made after reading, Page 99.

    Don't think any longer...buy the book.

    Best, Jim

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