Card counting methods
  • I've been practicing BS for quite some time now, and I think that Im about ready to start learning card counting. The most popular system seems to be High/low. But it's very overwhelming. I don't see it possible for me keep track of an entire shoe without messing up, let alone keep track without the casino know that Im counting. My question is: Since the high/low method is aimed at know how many high cards are left in a deck, is there a simpler method that only counts the high cards instead of adding an subtracting every card? I think learning an easy method would help ease me in, then eventually I could move on to mastering high/low.
  • We've all been there. Learn Hi/lo, it is the most popular. Cary a deck of cards with you everywhere and count them, sittingin traffic, at the doctors, etc. See the gamemaster online blackjack school. Practise counting the cards while playing the hit or stand game.Read everything, all the BJ sites,books, and articles, and keep counting those cards. It may take a couple months, so be patient. Blackjackinfo.com has a whole list of online free resources to practise counting and blackjack. Consider investing in Casino Verite practise software. There are no shortcuts to this if you want to take money from the casinos.
    Good Luck
    V
  • pokinatcha_punk77 said:
    I've been practicing BS for quite some time now, and I think that Im about ready to start learning card counting. The most popular system seems to be High/low. But it's very overwhelming. I don't see it possible for me keep track of an entire shoe without messing up, let alone keep track without the casino know that Im counting. My question is: Since the high/low method is aimed at know how many high cards are left in a deck, is there a simpler method that only counts the high cards instead of adding an subtracting every card? I think learning an easy method would help ease me in, then eventually I could move on to mastering high/low.

    You might try reading a basic beginning book on BJ and counting.Might try reading Blackjack Bluebook 2 and learning some of the beginning counts it offers. But there is no substitute for practice.
  • get Fred Renzeys' Blackjack Bluebook II (available on this website) yiu can start with the ace/ten front count and progress to kiss count,kisssII and kiss III-i never would have thought i'd ever even try to learn card counting-read Freds' book now i'm at the tables using kiss III-no problemo!
    best of luck-
    Prog
  • I have used KissIII and Red 7 seems like when my count on dd gets over 20 i start loosing money. Looks like as long as i stay below 20 i win more money. Is it me or $hit happens. This happends all the time.
  • Dyno -- Please understand that with any count system, your probabilities to win or lose shift by only a couple percentage points. Using KISS III in double deck play, when your running count is "17", on average you have a 0.4% disadvantage. When it is "24" you usually have a 2.0% advantage. It's similar to having a 49.8% chance to win one bet, then a 51% chance to win the other. Anything could happen on either bet -- but as you accumulate many bets in each situation, the -0.4%'s will lose money and the +2.0%'s will win money.
  • I think i see what you are saying. I failed to say before that over 20 i was losing with 19's and 20'. I guess when its' all said and done you still have to have a little bit of luck. Heres one for you in a tournment the other night out of 21 hands i drew 12 14's.

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