no 10 doubling , how much lost
  • i think no 10 double for player is a very negative rule

    anyone know how much will we lost
  • Where in the world will they not allow you to double on ten? Every place that have played out lets you double on 10 and 11 as a bare minimum some will even let you double on any two. The rule no double down on 10 is so bad that I would not play in casino that had that rule. The add casino advantage is .56% to put that number in perspective the average casino advantage in blackjack with perfect play in the Reno-Tahoe area excluding boomtown is .48% boomtown's house edge is .2% with perfect basic stragedy because they allow double down on any two cards with a single deck!!!
    The house advantage with only allowing you to double on 11 is over 1.04% come pared with boomtowns advantage of .2% thats a 5 fold increase in house advantage.
    When the opportunity to double on Ten comes up the dealer has a 2-9 up showing your added advantage is anywhere from 4.7% to 30.8%!!! When the dealer shows a 10 or an ace the house has an advantage over you and you should not double the average disadvantage is between 2.1% on ten 4.6% on ace.

    p.s. all of the numbers that I have presented assume a count of zero.
  • becasue they offer another rule

    5 cards not burst can get 50% profit first before the dealer hit his cards

    that should be have +0.6x-0.7X EV +

    but they have only 11 doubling

    so i have to count if this game is still postive and worth to paly after deducting this
  • Even if they paid you a full 100% of your bet with a 5-card charlie double on only 11 is so bad for the player not even a perfect counter could get a mathamatical advantage. a non busting 5-card charlie happens once every several thousand hands. Getting a 10 or a doublable soft hand happens way more often. Gamble there at your own risk because it is only a matter of time before you give it to the house.
  • learningtocount said:
    Even if they paid you a full 100% of your bet with a 5-card charlie double on only 11 is so bad for the player not even a perfect counter could get a mathamatical advantage. a non busting 5-card charlie happens once every several thousand hands. Getting a 10 or a doublable soft hand happens way more often. Gamble there at your own risk because it is only a matter of time before you give it to the house.



    actually it happens _way_ more often than that. 5-card charlie adds 1.46% to the player's advantage...
  • Your total with 5 cards that don't bust you will win most of the time anyway so the added advantage of only being able to take 50% profit is really small. I deal blackjack 4 to 5 days a week and i do not see more than one or two of 5-card charlies a day.
  • you just are on the negative side of variance. It certainly happens to me often enough. 5 card and more dealer's hands are not that uncommon either...

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