• Hi All,
    I have been looking over everyone's shoulder now for sometime, and its time to swim with the big fish.
    My wife and I are going to Reno week after next, and I have a question about tipping dealers. We are big tippers (those girls and guys that work the floor deserve all they make) but I have a problem with tipping dealers. They rotate so often, and it's hard for me to tip them for a card that I worked hard to get.
    Also I count my wins/losses closely and don't want to dip into my table money for a tip.
    What is the proper time, and amount to tip a dealer?
    Just might see some of you in Reno for St. Patrick's Day!!!
    Regards,
    Wyatt
  • In Australia we DONT tip, so I cannot advise you here.

    I have read you tip 1 unit??!!!

    I think tipping is a scam personally.
  • Dealers are paid quite poorly. They depend on tips,they pay taxes on tips that the government
    estimates they recieve.
    Tipping a dealer occasionally will neither make or break you. I tip a chip every hour or so. As dealers split their tips in most places,it doesn't really matter which one you tip,they all get a piece.
    I always place my tip so it is riding along my bet.

    Out of curiousity-what is this hard work you say you need to do to do to get a card?
  • 22busted,
    How can tipping be a scam?
  • NYB,
    I guess "hard work" was the wrong term. My meaning there was the fact that I use Bj strategy to calculate whether or not to hit or stand, and a dealer has a very strict set of rules that take no strategy.
    Thanks for any and all comments.
    5's & 6's to the dealers !!
    Regards,
    Wyatt
  • earp I think you should tip the dealer something. For my self I tip 1 unit each time the dealers rotate. You will have to find your own comfort level here.
  • 22busted said:
    In Australia we DONT tip, so I cannot advise you here.

    I have read you tip 1 unit??!!!

    I think tipping is a scam personally.

    To all our aussie members on this site. Sick of hearing you all bitch about tipping. We know you dont tip in AUST. That is the custom there. In the states tipping has been a custom here for a very long time. Please do all the service workers in the states a favor and stay on your side of the pond if you dont want to adjust your atitude when visiting here. When traveling most people will make an attempt to adjust to the culture there traveling to. So if you dont want to tip go to Bali or Phuket where you can abuse all the third world indentured servant workers who dont have a choice to your hearts content.
  • I tip $1 along side each hand. It helps me track the number of hands played each shoe. In addition, I feel it disarms the pit crew. Although I am winning a great deal, they might feel as though I don't mind sharing the wealth. Therefore, I'm not a bad guy after all.
  • nc-tom: good point and i agree with you. on the other hand the USA isn't the good old USA anymore, most of the outsiders coming in don't care about custom and buse and abuse privledges anyways to the point where everything is out of control here anymore. i'm not complaining, just making an obvious observation. u see disrespect anywhere you go in casinos wether your playing in Vegas or Atlantic City.

    back on the topic of tipping... i as a counter do tip according to the friendliness or courtesy of the dealer. whatever I can afford to tip I tip wether it is small or large... something is better than nothing. sometimes there's that dealer that has a hunch you are counting but will be cool about it... so i tip him. on the other hand i had dealers throw hissy fits and call the pit boss over cause they "thought" i was counting... not tip for you. also theres those dealers that are quiet and take all the player cursing and crying cause he is "beating them up with bad cards"... poor guy deserves some compensation for getting his ear chewed off. I know friends that are dealers (one in CA and one in MS). tokes per hour is huge for them and is where they make all their money... just like coctail waitresses rely on their tips to earn a living and pay their bills. afterall how would you like it if that was your full time job that paid the bills and/or fed the family and no one ever tipped you?
  • Dol Bil Tink said:
    I tip $1 along side each hand. It helps me track the number of hands played each shoe. In addition, I feel it disarms the pit crew. Although I am winning a great deal, they might feel as though I don't mind sharing the wealth. Therefore, I'm not a bad guy after all.


    What size bets are you making?
    At $10 a hand,you are giving away 20% of your winnings.
    Even at $100 a hand,you are giving away more than any edge you can gain by counting.
    Assuming you play for an hour,you are tipping $50-60
    an hour.
  • Dol Bil Tink said:
    I tip $1 along side each hand. It helps me track the number of hands played each shoe. In addition, I feel it disarms the pit crew. Although I am winning a great deal, they might feel as though I don't mind sharing the wealth. Therefore, I'm not a bad guy after all.


    Your min. bet must be over $100/hand to make up for that big of tips and still make money at bj.
  • Some thoughts on tipping from the dealers perspective.
    Of course we depend on tips to pay the bills we could not do it on the wages.Where I work we have a complete split system where tips are collected and counted over the whole pay period.Each cheque has a tip per hour so if I work 80 hours I get twice what a part time dealer does who put in 40 but we get the same rate.I perfer this system because I can work a monday a day shift a 5$ table or the sucker wheel and it wont effect my pay cheque.I think this works well for the player too because the peer presure to provide good pleasant service is extream.
    How much to tip? That is up to you ,you dont have to at all if you dont want to,there is no rule that says you must.I must admit over tipping will ruin any chance of a profit.If you are running well put a little somthing out there and if its up to me bet it for us,its more fun that way.
    Good skill to you.
  • I use the sucker sidebet (Lucky Ladies, Royal Match, Big Slick, etc.) to tip the dealer at blackjack tables. I occasionally put a dollar on the sidebet and tell the dealer that if we win we will split the profits. Perhaps someday I'll be splitting $1000 with the dealer when we get lucky ladies.
  • Seems like every time i play the dealer gets mad at me. I try to be nice but it doesent help.Yesterday i almost hit one because when i colored up he made a comment (i cant rember what he said) that he didnt like it because i didnt tip him. So i threw him $2.50 and walked. Is it just me or are dealers aragent?
  • Sorry to hear about that.The good news and the bad news is dealers are people,some are rude arogant stupid sour some are nice funny proffesional and everthing inbetween.
    As for the jerk you encounterd he makes it hard on the rest of us.He had no business making comments of that sort and does not deserve anything from you .If you expect gratuities it ia a good idea to act in a way that will make people gratful for your service,nobody owes you .
    better luck in the future and good skill
  • When playing progressions I tip more, when its bizness its bizness. But I do tip when finished. Hourly rates apply.
  • Somebody that tip bets $1 a hand is a generous tipper in my mind because they are tipping $50-$60 an hour on a full table and even more on an empty one. I work as a dealer and I thank-you. The pit crew won't kick you out even if you can count cards because you are being so generous with the dealers that they will let you play till you run out of money!!!
  • While playing Atzar last month, a player tipped a female dealer $7,200 in one evening. I was there.
  • Assuming you are a dealer, learningtocount, do you like it better when you are given a tip or when the player plays the tip for you? Obviously if the player stinks its obvious, but in general?
  • i was at the tables last week-each time the dealers rotated i put up a couple bucks for the dealer-they both saw the tip-my betting spread was 1-10-
    doubled my money in 1 hour-went home- not once did i hear "CHECKS PLAY"
    rogue1
  • Sitting at third base at a California Indian Casino a few years back, I double soft 18 vs a dealer 5 and the order of the cards being what they were, everyone at the table loses. What happened as the dealer pulled the cards up to put into the rack just pissed me off no end. He picks up my double card, holds it high and rotates it for everyone to see, basically saying, "do not blame me, blame the guy at third base".
    I look at him and say, "that was not nice and just plain wrong(explamation mark removed).

    A shoe later the count goes high and I lose a few more while the count is rising and a couple of players leave the table because the dealer is killing everyone. I spread to two hands and just start winning and the big cards still are not to be seen. Suddenly, it is a monster count, I have 3 hands with max bets and they start coming and I am winning at a rate of much better than 2 of 3 especially if you consider a couple of blackjacks and some splits and doubles. I am up $14,000+ on the shoe, singing lowly, but loud enough for the dealer to hear, "no tokes for you" and now guess who is pissed off.
    The relief dealer shows up and I go down some on my bet (count went down some) but put out a green chip in front of each of my (now) 2 bets. She (relief dealer) tells him to deal another and I pull my tokes back and say, "these are for you, he already has exactly what he earned from me." She deals, win one of two but the look on his face was worth a small fortune.
    Revenge can be sweet, especially in a keep your own place like this one.

    ihate17
  • learningtocount said:
    Somebody that tip bets $1 a hand is a generous tipper in my mind because they are tipping $50-$60 an hour on a full table and even more on an empty one. I work as a dealer and I thank-you. The pit crew won't kick you out even if you can count cards because you are being so generous with the dealers that they will let you play till you run out of money!!!


    Learningtocount - You are confirming my thought. My teammate and I have tipped $1 per hand for years and we've never been backed-off. Yeah it's expensive, but I think of it as insurance. FYI, our average wager is about $200.

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