Ray said:There is more to the simple math that is use to define bets in relation to BR.
As one writer put it; "You want win", etc, unless you have a good grip and tolerance for variance, the number one killer of would be winners.
Kitchen table planning of a blackjack strategy is much like some type of project planning at work or new backyard modification at home. You need to consider all the elements and possibilities. The idea is to reduce the risk of a wrong-headed effort, call it ROR management.
It's the confidence level that is acquired from a good, well thought-out plan that protects us from the physiological pitfalls when things deviate drastically from the mean/norm.
stainless steel rat said:I agree. That's what causes me to choke up when I read posts from AlexD30. He continually advises people to overbet their bankroll, and bends statistics to prove it is the right thing to do...
AlexD30 said:Honestly, It seems to me that some players really dont give them a chance to win in this game. It doesnt take to be a scientist to beat this game. Even the 6:5 single deck or the Super Fun 21 played with two or six decks could be beaten for big money. The real problem is if you know how to do it.
It does not take millions of simulated hands to determine if your method of play can beat a certain game. You can figure in 500 hands if you can beat the game or not. If much more than 500 seem to be necessary to resolve the issue, it is possibly that is such a close case that it really is not essential to know which is a better course of action. If you can get ahead in $$ after 500 hands in any of the above games than you definitely have a winning system. On the other hand, if you can not show a profit after 500 hands than you probably should forget about BJ and give up casino play.
You talking about; I advise people to over bet the bankroll?
How about if you won today $5,000 and tomorrow go out and buy yourself a $2,000 set of clothes. Is that you overbet your bankroll and lost the last $2,000? Or, is your bankroll now after spending the last 2K in jeopardy than before? What is the difference besides having a new suit now compared with betting 2K from your 5K profit pile on the next positive count when you have edge?
If you play the "bad" game of BJ 6:5 and bet 10:1 ratio by over betting the profit pile and still cannot have a substantial profit after 500 hands you are not a pro.
stainless steel rat said:That proves to me that the old adage of "if you put enough monkeys in a room with enough typewriters, one of them will eventually produce Lincoln's Gettysburg address perfectly..."
What does buying a $2000 suit _one_ time have to do with overbetting that $5K bankroll more than once? Answer: nothing. If you have a $5000 B/R, and you continually make $2K bets, your RoR is 100%. And it won't take long...
So, as usual, I miss the point about buying clothes...
ihate17 said:Simpley, as long as you win every time you go to the casino, your ROR is 0, spending your winnings on a suit or whatever is absolutely no problem, because you always win.
For those of us not capable of winning everytime, the ROR is 100% but you got a nice suit.
ihate17
AlexD30 said:Honestly, It seems to me that some players really dont give them a chance to win in this game. It doesnt take to be a scientist to beat this game. Even the 6:5 single deck or the Super Fun 21 played with two or six decks could be beaten for big money. The real problem is if you know how to do it.
It does not take millions of simulated hands to determine if your method of play can beat a certain game. You can figure in 500 hands if you can beat the game or not. If much more than 500 seem to be necessary to resolve the issue, it is possibly that is such a close case that it really is not essential to know which is a better course of action. If you can get ahead in $$ after 500 hands in any of the above games than you definitely have a winning system. On the other hand, if you can not show a profit after 500 hands than you probably should forget about BJ and give up casino play.
You talking about; I advise people to over bet the bankroll?
How about if you won today $5,000 and tomorrow go out and buy yourself a $2,000 set of clothes. Is that you overbet your bankroll and lost the last $2,000? Or, is your bankroll now after spending the last 2K in jeopardy than before? What is the difference besides having a new suit now compared with betting 2K from your 5K profit pile on the next positive count when you have edge?
If you play the "bad" game of BJ 6:5 and bet 10:1 ratio by over betting the profit pile and still cannot have a substantial profit after 500 hands you are not a pro.
Bojack1 said:Huh???????
stainless steel rat said:Unfortunately for me, I'm not capable of winning every time. In fact, I can't even count on being ahead after AlexD30's "500 hands". At a shoe game, heads up, that can be less than 5 hours. More crowded and it can be 10 hours. I've played _far_ longer than that, in the hole. Perhaps I don't know what I'm doing. :)
stainless steel rat said:Unfortunately for me, I'm not capable of winning every time. In fact, I can't even count on being ahead after AlexD30's "500 hands". At a shoe game, heads up, that can be less than 5 hours. More crowded and it can be 10 hours. I've played _far_ longer than that, in the hole. Perhaps I don't know what I'm doing. :)
AlexD30 said:LOL!..
Are you trying to tell us that you sometimes play in the hole for over 500 hands? Are you playing by the count and betting how the TC tells you to bet?- (TC=2 bet=2, TC=4 Bet=4 and so on ?) If thats the case, no wonder you cannot come up from the hole and have a profit in 500 hands. My suggestion to you is keep playing the way you do because it seems to me you are looking for fun and not for making money.
Defending myself is a waste of time and energy, especially when Im not the source of the problem. Very soon some of you guys will realize what the heart of the matter truly is.
Betting the profit pile? - "If I'm going to walk on thin ice, I might as well dance!" - That is betting from profit pile all the way to the table limit when you have any edge.
Good Luck!
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