Blackjack Bluebook II
  • The Native American casinos here in Arizona use 7 or 8 deck shoes for the most part.

    The information contained in the title book with regard to the "Magnificant 7" blackjack hands appear to pertain only to a 6 deck shoe.

    Are there any adjustments one should make to use this stratgey on the 7 or 8 deck shoes.

    It seems to me that my last visit to Harrahs at Laughlin they were also using 7 deck shoes.

    Thanks for the help......
  • dr3putt said:
    The Native American casinos here in Arizona use 7 or 8 deck shoes for the most part.

    The information contained in the title book with regard to the "Magnificant 7" blackjack hands appear to pertain only to a 6 deck shoe.

    Are there any adjustments one should make to use this stratgey on the 7 or 8 deck shoes.

    It seems to me that my last visit to Harrahs at Laughlin they were also using 7 deck shoes.

    Thanks for the help......


    Why would you ever contemplate playing 7 decks shoe when you can play Single or Double decks?
    I don't think is any significant difference between 6,7 or 8 decks. I would never “play all” any shoe games. Back counting is the way to play. But if you don't back count, I would advise you not to get involved in those games. You will lose all your money.

    Maybe, .., perhaps, .., possibly.., 6 decks shoe with 80% pen S17, D2, DAS, LS is OK if you can back-count, bet big when you have edge and absorb the flux.
  • Thanks for the response to my question. It is appreciated. Unfortunately I do not count cards and do not know what back counting is. As a beginner I have a lot to learn I know. Thanks again.
  • dr3putt said:
    Thanks for the response to my question. It is appreciated. Unfortunately I do not count cards and do not know what back counting is. As a beginner I have a lot to learn I know. Thanks again.



    Well, back-counting is some kind off “con smart play”
    You standing behind other players but not placing any bet yet . You count the cards and wait until the count tells you that you have edge. At that point, you start placing bets as long as the condition of the shoe is still to your advantage. As soon as the shoe have changed in negative when the dealer has advantage you bet minimum or nothing at all. Just leave the table. Look for another table where the dealer is about to start a new shoe and do it again. This way you only play when you’ve got edge. Is more to back-counting but this is a approximate description of how is done.

    Notes:
    “absorb the flux”
    is the equivalent of having a dedicated amount of money invested in chips available to you that we call it “bankroll”. The bankroll is part of your tools. Is like a tool in craftsman’s tool box. You use that tool to play the game efficiently. Sometimes you will have to take a loss in chips and for that you need a substantial number of chips available in your bankroll. The money invested in bankroll are not to be used for other purposes except for playing BJ at pro level. Look at bankroll like is a bunch of chips you use to keep score. Don’t look at it as dollar value. Say you have 2000 red chips. Min bet is one red chip and your max bet ten red chips. You play with a 10:1 ratio and have 200 max bets. Probably your average bet, if you bet by the count, would bet around three red chips over the long run. Why you need so many chips? – Well, the luck factor that we call it “standard deviation” is always present during the play. So, you need to ABSORB the FLUX. You need to absorb the “bad luck”, so to speak.

    Now, how about seeing this video clip about Standard Deviation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZF5Dw384vk
  • dr3putt said:
    The Native American casinos here in Arizona use 7 or 8 deck shoes for the most part.

    The information contained in the title book with regard to the "Magnificant 7" blackjack hands appear to pertain only to a 6 deck shoe.

    Are there any adjustments one should make to use this stratgey on the 7 or 8 deck shoes.

    It seems to me that my last visit to Harrahs at Laughlin they were also using 7 deck shoes.

    Thanks for the help......


    Page 99 of Bluebook II mentions that once you get beyond six decks, it hardly pays for a non-card-counter to to use the "Magnificent 7" hand playing adjustments -- but to just stand with 16 vs. 10 whenever there are more "babies" (2s thru 5s) on board than 10s, and be done with it.
  • Thanks.....there is the answer plain and simple. I don;t know how I missed it. Thanks for pointing it out.
  • If you use Kiss III in a 6 deck shoe game with decent rules and pen you certainly can make $$$.
    Best of luck.

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