Big Betting idiots!
  • I sat down next to high roller at the harrahs he was betting round somewhere of $300 a hand. On one hand he had an 11 vs an 8 up and deciced to double for less $225 I quickly tried to toss $75 over to him but the dealer said that you can't do that. He wouldn't put it on his bet. How big of an idiot do you have to be to double for less in a cash game of blackjack. He had about an 8% edge on that $75 that he just let go to waste. He ended up winning the hand and won $525 on that hand instead of $600 like he should have. I was so frustrated by this that I immediately cashed out and left.

    Another time I was dealing to guy who had bet $500 on the hand got a soft 17 against a 4 and stayed. The best play would be to double, followed by to hit and than to stay. He made the worst decision possible and it cost him dearly. Doubling would of won him a $1,000 hitting would of won him $500 and as it is he ended up pushing. The next card out of a the shoe was the 4. Most people playing $5-$25 a hand don't play this badly. How could people willing to bet this much money on the game not know anything about the game.
  • learningtocount said:
    I sat down next to high roller at the harrahs he was betting round somewhere of $300 a hand. On one hand he had an 11 vs an 8 up and deciced to double for less $225 I quickly tried to toss $75 over to him but the dealer said that you can't do that. He wouldn't put it on his bet. How big of an idiot do you have to be to double for less in a cash game of blackjack. He had about an 8% edge on that $75 that he just let go to waste. He ended up winning the hand and won $525 on that hand instead of $600 like he should have. I was so frustrated by this that I immediately cashed out and left.

    Another time I was dealing to guy who had bet $500 on the hand got a soft 17 against a 4 and stayed. The best play would be to double, followed by to hit and than to stay. He made the worst decision possible and it cost him dearly. Doubling would of won him a $1,000 hitting would of won him $500 and as it is he ended up pushing. The next card out of a the shoe was the 4. Most people playing $5-$25 a hand don't play this badly. How could people willing to bet this much money on the game not know anything about the game.


    First off why would you leave a game just because someone else made a wrong play. If you had an advantage at the time and left you are worse than him because you're supposed to know better. That is really a typical ploppy move to lose control of your game because of the play of others.

    As far as high rollers playing badly, it just goes to show you, big money can't buy you a win. Remember most of these high rollers make their money outside of the game. There are a hell of a lot more red chippers that can play a strong game than there are rich high stakes players that can. And actually, thank God for that.
  • That particular game that I was playing at Harrahs had particularly poor rules you could only double on 8-11 with a double deck blackjack paid 3 to 2 so it wasn't terrible. I only played the game for a short while so I could activate my player card and hopefully have the casino send me some bonus coupons. I also did not like the attitude of the other players at the table, saying I might have coursed the cards had my $75 gone on his bet when he doubled down. Some hand interaction plays might have been my best way to win at the casino. At that particular casino I was playing a losing to a break even game with people I didn't feel comfortable with so I left. I was willing to do that for a couple of hands to get rated and try to get a book of coupons.
  • Just curious, where do you deal? And since when do casinos not let you fill in someone's double down? I haven't heard of that before.
  • More importantly,what kind of rating would you possibly get by playing a couple of hands?
  • Both_Barrels said:And since when do casinos not let you fill in someone's double down? I haven't heard of that before.

    Typically the casino will not let you fill in another player’s double down yourself. The dealer will tell you to hand your money to the player and he will fill in the bet. The problem is that, from the casino’s standpoint, it was the player who made the full bet and you had nothing to do with it. You just loaned him the money. They will not arbitrate any disagreement you have with the player about who gets the winnings, or if you even get your money back at all. It is up to you to make sure that the player understands the circumstances before you hand him the money. I have had times when the other player would not give me my winnings from the bet, only my original money back. Of course, if the bet loses they don’t give me my money back. Trying to explain that to a ploppy can be difficult sometimes, especially after they have taken your money.

    -Sonny-
  • The amount you can bet or the amount you can afford to lose has nothing to do with how much you might know about playing blackjack, it only has something to do with how much money you have.
    I play often on black chip tables and as Bojack stated, have probably seen worse play at some of these tables than at red chip tables.

    LTC, you also need to take into consideration prospective. You see the guy who places a $500 bet as a big player and to most of the world he is pretty big. But in that guy's prospective, $500 to him might be the same as $5 to you or I because he has so much.

    ihate17
  • I could sense that the player who made the $500 bet was playing with scared money. I do not think that he was that rich. If he wasn't playing with scared money he would have doubled down. I think he was scared of losing and ended up winning about $200 over a period of about 5 hands. Playing at least a $100 hand and up. If he had two brain cells on how to play blackjack he could of won $1,500+.
  • If everyone only played +EV blackjack...then the casinos would stop offering it or change the rules where playing +EV blackjack was impossible.

    From my past month of "lurking" on here...my best guess is the LTC doesn't play +EV blackjack either...so you really shouldn't be making fun of others who don't.

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