Wayne said:i think that was right, but now that its coming from someone elses mouth it sounds really stupid to do that.....
ihate17 said:Wayne
The interesting thing about this is that the guy who is just lucky and has never read a book that mentions anything about pit heat, will not even notice this often, while it will make a new counter really nervous because he just read about it. Do not let them know they are sweating but probably shortly anyway.
ihate17
Wayne said:i dont understand the last sentcance in that quote. to me, it means dont let them know that they are making me nervous. thats all i really understand. but probably shortly anyway is confusing to me. im guessing you left out a word. would that word be leave?
other than that, i think i understand everything you said. last night my cousin and i were playing 21, and i was dealing while he was practicing bs. we kept the count (with chips to make sure it was right). and every deck we played (single deck), he made money and never lost money. if im right, i thought that counting doesnt always result in gaining units, i thought you could just as easily lose them too. is it possible the reason why he kept winning is because the count was always positive? or was it just luck? after i let him play for a while, we would take turns dealing and the other would count. the count almost always came out right, and still we were always winning units at the end of the deck. i dont mean we won every hand, but we just came out with more units at the end of each deck. should i try to teach my cousin how to become an AP? he is only 17 now, and he is really interested in it, and he can keep track of the count really well. i know im not too knowledgeable about counting and AP, but i think i have the princibles down. is the true count always higher than the running count in a single deck? i read that somewhere but in not positive. i dont mean its always plus, but i mean if its -2, it would really be more like -3 or -4 maybe? im sorry i write so much at a time and it takes forever to read my posts, but if you have to learn, you must ask what you dont know. and once more, thanks a lot Ih17.
Wayne said:i dont understand the last sentcance in that quote. to me, it means dont let them know that they are making me nervous. thats all i really understand. but probably shortly anyway is confusing to me. im guessing you left out a word. would that word be leave?
other than that, i think i understand everything you said. last night my cousin and i were playing 21, and i was dealing while he was practicing bs. we kept the count (with chips to make sure it was right). and every deck we played (single deck), he made money and never lost money. if im right, i thought that counting doesnt always result in gaining units, i thought you could just as easily lose them too. is it possible the reason why he kept winning is because the count was always positive? or was it just luck? after i let him play for a while, we would take turns dealing and the other would count. the count almost always came out right, and still we were always winning units at the end of the deck. i dont mean we won every hand, but we just came out with more units at the end of each deck. should i try to teach my cousin how to become an AP? he is only 17 now, and he is really interested in it, and he can keep track of the count really well. i know im not too knowledgeable about counting and AP, but i think i have the princibles down. is the true count always higher than the running count in a single deck? i read that somewhere but in not positive. i dont mean its always plus, but i mean if its -2, it would really be more like -3 or -4 maybe? im sorry i write so much at a time and it takes forever to read my posts, but if you have to learn, you must ask what you dont know. and once more, thanks a lot Ih17.
stainless steel rat said:
1. No, the TC is not always larger than the running count in SD. For the first 13 cards dealt, the TC and RC are the same. Actually depends on how you estimate/round/truncate/floor, but you get the drift. Once 1/4 deck has been played, the TC will be bigger or smaller than the RC, depending on whether it is positive or negative. RC=+3 gives a TC of +4 with 3/4 deck left to deal. A RC of -3 gives a TC of -4 at the same point.
Wayne said:what do you mean by truncate and floor? and also, you said, "For the first 13 cards dealt, the TC and RC are the same.", then you went on to say, "Once 1/4 deck has been played, the TC will be bigger or smaller than the RC, depending on whether it is positive or negative.". 13 cards is 1/4 of the deck. so did you mean after 1/4 or more has been dealt the TC will change, and the first 1/4 of the deck the RC and TC is pretty much the same?
again, thanks to both of you for helping out.
NYB said:Wayne,
Are you referring to Avi,outside of Bullhead City? If so,I believe you can find better games in Laughlin,which is what,ten miles away?
Wayne said:thanks, my friends all go to the riverside quite a bit so i was thinking about playing there pretty often when i learn to count really well. do they deal any SD tables there? and i appreciate the advice about SF21, but i think i will give it a try, and see how bad it is.
Wayne said:what does Ro6 and Ro7 mean? i dont think ive ever heard that term before.
Wayne said:thanks for varifying. now i need to know about true count. if i were to play SD, how would i round the deck if there was more than 1/2 left, but not quite 3/4 left? would i round the deck estimation up or down? i think i would round it up, and that would make the running count lower. if that doesnt make sense, ill try to repeat what i mean.
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