NYB said:Will the cards know that you are playing your first hand? Or that you've stayed for a third hand instead of leaving after two? So what is the difference?
morrotho said:Well, is 22 wins in a row, and 16 wins in a row 'luck'? I could understand if it was under 10...but one of the blackjack dealers told me in his whole life he's never heard of someone winning that much. Obviously I know none of you, and I wouldn't try to impress anyone because no one knows who I am, but I think that if you notice a pattern, stick to it, and win a lot in a row something has to be going right.
As for doubling down: It's statistically proven that if you double-down while you're hovering at even or up, but play cautious when you're down, you're giving yourself a better shot. IE the extra card.
What's the most consecutive days you've won in a row? Anyone, for that matter....because I look back at that casino run like it was my golden age, but if it's a normal thing, then maybe I'm just a normal gambler. I didn't even make that much compared to some people....but I had a system and it worked every single time I've went and played, even when I lost. When I lost it was just pure greed and not able to leave the table.
If my system didn't work even ONCE out of all the times I've went to that casino, I would have thrown the towel in. It'd be better to lose to pure 'bad luck' now as opposed to later down the road, when the magnitude of the loss will hit me much harder.
Reply, please.
morrotho said:I see what you mean, but I haven't been the the casino a million times. I've been there somewhere in the neighborhood of 80 times, and I've seen two occurances where I didn't reach my goal, but at the same time, I didn't stick around long enough to let the tide turn. My biggest problem is just self-control and confidence. On another note, I mark wins and losses, but also money totals. When I'm down on the casino, it's not going to come after a huge loss...it'd have to come after a long string of huge losses, and I would probably stop if I lost 3 times in a row.
You have to remember, when I go to the casino with 1000 dollars, it's just 50 dollars of my own money, that I started with over the 'net. The greatest thing about the internet casinos is the ability to play dollar hands, and progressively build a bankroll. My only problem is that it takes so long to get the money it seems.
So, I can see your point though. Over the internet casino I'm 43-4, and out of the 4 losses there was one time where I just lost straight up, the other three I didn't leave at my goal. I'm just saying...adding up my casino trips where the system has worked, roughly 75/80 times (rough estimate), and the internet casino (46/47)....I'd flip that coin any day of the week....I think what people are overlooking is that the money I bring to the casino in the first place is coming from the online casino, and I really can't remember when the last time I lost was.....
...my problem is that the mental breakdowns occur within the environment, but every single account i create for the casinos gets blocked. I need to have friends create new accounts from other computers and use visa gift cards just to play.....if there was a way I knew I'd get paid 110% of the time off of online, I'd never waste the total 3 hours driving time to hit the real casino. I think what I should have asked when I started this thread is "Does anyone have any advice for self-control?" I know it's just a simple answer, but if there's some mechanism or technique I can use, I would never lose in the casino.
If I felt the need to count cards, I would. I actually bought the book 'blackjack blueprint' and tried learning from the online java program, but then I figured it was useless since the only reasons I'm losing is due to inability to regulate self-control.
I just need some type of advice or experiences with things that have worked for people. Hell, maybe I just need a drink to loosen up when I walk in there...I can be something simple....but, bad luck has hit me in a combined 6/121 casino sessions, and even then I pretty much buckled, or only brought 20 hands as a bankroll to play with (financial strain, was pretty much looking for some blind luck)
morrotho said:Yeah, my wins weren't anything to ride home about. I would win 250 dollars with a 2000 dollar bank. The thing is, I'd only lose my bank. So, the most I've ever lost was 2000, but by that time I was still up on the casino roughly 6 grand. I know losses come, definitely...but as long as I'm still up triple my bankroll after a loss, I'm doing alright.
I wait after a loss because I refresh my mind. There's a statistic that doesn't lie about people having a chance to be up in blackjack. Just like the statistic that the dealer wins the first hand 80-something percent of the time, and the 2nd hand 68% of the time....people who sit down and play blackjack, who play with at least a 25 hand bank....have a 90% chance of getting ahead at one point in time.
Sure, the house advantage is mathematical, but you're forgetting something...if you only press your bets when you're hovering close to even, or you're up....and you're experienced enough to know when you're getting hot, it totally makes the .5% house advantage irrelevant....just think....how many times have you been down for hours and hours, and within 10 minutes you're ahead? Because you're experienced and you pressed at the appropriate times.
My average losses are are 8 X my average wins, but by the time I lose usually I'm up about 20+ wins....so it's rough, but I'm still up healthy. It's not too hard to get up 2 hands in a casino if you're playing like a calculator with a 35-40 hand bankroll. I'm not 'throwing' this idea out here....it's worked for the last 3 years for me.
Before I started another casino run, I just wanted to see if I was just like every other gambler with my past experiences, or if I was different. I'm getting my answers slowly but surely, and it's helping boost my confidence, so I thank everyone for all of the well-thought out replies.
I think mathematically speaking the house DOES have that .5% of an edge...but pressing bets totally changes the game.
I'm not talking about winning X amount of dollars....I'm talking about pressing only when the time is appropriate, and getting up 2 hands. Playing like a calculator is the toughest part....but math has nothing to do with pressing bets, especially when the goal is so small and so easy to obtain.....2000 dollars to win 200-250....the chances are great, of that.
As for the blackjack online....I've had grindouts where I've played over 2.5 hours of straight hands, actually I had that happen this week....I still ended up winning. I consider those potential loss days, but my rule of thumb is that I don't leave until I'm down my very last hand, playing 1 unit when I'm down, and playing like a calculator and using Basic Strategy.
Try it, you'd be surprised....I'm actually feeling a lot more positive on my next casino run after reading posts on all of these forums. If you really want to know, my last trip ended really horribly....I won, but I lost a black chip, and at the time my bankroll was low so my goal was only 120....I lost my winnings, my mind-state buckled, and I panicked and ended up losing...that's why I'm kinda scared to go back....I've NEVER lost a single chip in my life at the casino, and after 6 straight wins, I ended up doing it and it's been a rough memory burned into my brain ever since.
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Ray said:morrotho- Your logic has so many flaws that there is no simple way to correct it. You must learn the hard way, so go to it.
Appetite said:Amen to that. Others' experiences should be taken to let others avoid what mistakes others have done. But should they choose to learn it the hard way. Go for it.
Appetite said:Amen to that. Others' experiences should be taken to let others avoid what mistakes others have done. But should they choose to learn it the hard way. Go for it.
morrotho said:With all due respect Casino Royale, I've read your past posts, and you've never touched the surface of anything I've done. That's why I PM'd you wondering how much you're up on the Casino since you've played.
If you're the type of person that loses at the online casino, we're two different kinds of people. I'm 49-4. and 2 of the losses were PURE bad luck losses, 2 were hitting my goal and not leaving, only to later lose. The difference? I cycle my wins, same with the casino. You cash in 50 to the online casino, play once a day, get up 2 hands and log out. You turn it to 800, cash out 750, and you're still with your original 50. So, those losses I've had were still ever-so-frustrating, but overall I've cashed out 19 times more than I've lost. Two different kinds of people.
My best advice to you is to read 'Winning Without Counting'. I KNOW The name Dr. Wong is a respected one, so I decided to buy the book and take it seriously. I think the underlying reason for all the negativity is that only a small handful of players can really win more than they lose overall LEGIT, and because the other 95% could never see it possible, blaming their losses on a .5% house advantage, then just play the safe, automated response of "You'll find out someday....you haven't in 80 casino trips and over 50 online sessions in the last three years, but someday when you lose I'll be right".
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