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  • Hey all. I have just one question, but I feel it is very important:

    What charts can be trusted on basic strategy, and WHY?

    Wikipedia provides this strategy for "3 or more decks, dealer stands on soft 17, double on any 2 cards, double after split allowed, dealer peeks for blackjack, and blackjack pays 3:2."

    It adds: "Most Las Vegas strip casinos hit on soft 17. This rule change requires a slightly modified basic strategy table -- double on 11 vs A, double on A/7 vs 2, and double on A/8 vs 6. Most casinos outside of Vegas still stand on soft 17."

    The charts leave out the modifications that Wikipedia provides for Vegas style play. Yet one of the charts it provides is "Vegas style basic strategy." Here is the hitorstand page for quick reference:

    Does the hitorstand dealer stay on soft17? Is this the cause of the differing strategies?

    I do not have the tools or time to simulate and test perfect blackjack strategy over countless hands myself. Therefore, it is very important to me that anyone who can answer my question also give their reasoning behind their response. Why do you trust the chart(s) you do? I know there are a lot of different charts and modifications for all different styles of blackjack play based on Vegas, AC, # of decks, player options, penetration and countless other variables.

    It is surely in the interest of the casinos to leak false or contradictory strategy. So why trust one chart versus another?

    It's all of us against the house. So please help a fellow Blackjack enthusiast out if you have a moment to give a thoughtful answer.

    Please check your comments about my lack of experience at the door, and thanks in advance for the helpful responses.
  • Soft 18 - What Chart's Can Be Trusted For Basic Strategy?........Basic strategy varies slightly depending on the number of decks and the rules. I don't think it's a question of anybody, including casinos, publishing charts that aren't accurate; more of a question of what game they are referring to........So let's just get you to accurate charts for the two most common six deck games most low stakes players will run across.

    - Go to the Wizard Of Odds site to this link: ......These are accurate charts for both dealer hitting and standing on S17.

    - Then I would suggest you purchase Fred Renzey's "Blackjack Bluebook II". The first third of this book has a ton of information for the beginning player.

    Hope this helps......Grifter
  • Post Deleted......100% redundant with previous post.........Moderator.
  • Thanks all, good stuff, and I will check out all of it.

    Only one thing I'm still confused about- can someone please explain the discrepancy between "Vegas Style" BS and Wikipedia "Vegas Style" BS?
  • Hi everybody, first post here...

    hitorstand's bs is for "no double allowed after splitting pairs" (ndas), wheras wiki's is for "double allowed after splitting" (das) and Late Surrender (ls).

    Basic strategys are also contained in "Blackjack Attack 3" by Don Schlesinger, as well as in Stanford Wong's book "Basic Blackjack"

    The Blackjack Basic Strategy Engine at

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