question on denominations
  • Ok, time for another trademark dumb question. I'm just a little confused on the logistics here.

    Say I'm gonna play a 25-30-35-40 string. I buy in for $100, or $200. I win the first hand. Now I need to wager $30. I only have $25 chips from buy-in. Do I have the dealer make change each time my wager is not in $25 increments, or should I have split the buy-in with $5 chips? What is the proper ettiquette? It seems like it would slow things down if I had to make change for every "odd" bet.

    Appreciate the help.
  • It's common to buy in half-and-half, red and green, and certainly would be advisable if you know you're going to need some red. Tell the dealer what you want when buy in.
  • John: To play $25 anything you ought to have a $400-$500 buy. 3:2 for
    $500 would be fine. The dealer is always manageing the bank and you
    should do likewise, like getting change at the shuffle. With a 200-300
    buy you should think about 10,15,20,25 and a mix of 2:1 so that the
    swings are less likely to send you home early. You can always up your
    base unit later, if your winnings will support same. Playing short at first
    is not a good idea, but that is not to say that there are not times when
    you should go for the kill(Walters greed index). If I'm up 700-800 at $25
    tables and I've got 3-4 hours of time and a good mental state, I'll make
    a decision to play on for a while or risk a 1000 toward a greater run. I'll take the risk and move to 50-100 most of the time.
  • John - I agree 100% with everything Ray says, and especially don't play "short"......., and 4-8 units is definitely short.

    A good guideline for an initial table buy-in is 20 units of your lowest bet (or your average bet if you want). Couple of things working for you with it:
    - It is a "normal" buy-in, and will not attract anyone's attention.
    - With the six deck you are playing, that should get you through about two shoes with 3-4 players; even if the cards aren't falling that good...Long enough for you to decide if you want to play that table, and you won't have to make a mid-shoe buy.
  • Hmmm, I never realized it before, but maybe I'm doing things backwards. My buy in would only be the $100 or $200, but I have a bankroll in pocket of $400 or $500. Just figured I'd buy- in in increments. I think my reasoning was something about less chips to manage until I needed them, or something. Now I'm not so sure why I'm looking at it that way.

    This Saturday I'd like to try a progression of 10-20-30, that has been working real well at home. However, since the casino hotel, and most other motels in the area are completely sold out (concert) I probably won't find a seat at a $10 table. In that case I probably will play a 25-30-35 prog. My $500 bankroll should be fine for that, no?

    Also with both these progressions I stop at the highest and return to the first unit. I've found I pretty regularly lose the fourth hand (no hard stats). But I've done all right at restarting the string at that point.

    Looking forward to this weekend.
    (Plus it's almost like Spring here in NE!)
  • jm2552 said:
    Say I'm gonna play a 25-30-35-40 string. I buy in for $100, or $200. I win the first hand.

    Whoa whoa whoa, wait up one second. You just said you buy-in for $100, so why dont you simply ask the dealer to give you some reds to supply your demands on your 25-30-35-40 betting string? Isn't that all you gotta do?

    Good luck this weekend with your gambling, just gotta ask you one thing though after quoting you again:

    In that case I probably will play a 25-30-35 prog. My $500 bankroll should be fine for that, no?

    Now exactly what type of progression is 25 to 30 to 35 to 40?!?!?! What I see is a double-edged sword. You are desiring to play at a $25 MINIMUM progression, yet when you win you're only increasing your bet by $5?! I dont understand the logic in that. If you're gonna bring $500 and are a progression bettor, why dont you employ the 1-1.5-2-2.5 progression instead? Blackjack is a game of streaks, so when you hit those winning streaks, it's best to have a good portion of your profit you've already netted from winning previous hands, so you increasing only by $5 seems contradictory to your playing $25 a hand in the first place.

    Something to think about.
  • Bug, you're right. I've actuallly got a small notebook of different progressions I try at home, over time. That particular one is only one of them, that for some reason has worked pretty well, with a smaller amount of risk. (I like to modify and tinker with things!) Sometimes they work, and other times, oh well...

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