indizona said:

Hey Walter,

Just finished the book. I've been applying the strategy to some simulations and like the results. I was curious, have you tried your progression/strategy on any other games, such as roulette or craps? With roulette I would apply this to the outside bets of red/black or even/odd.... and with craps, the pass line or don't pass with no odds. Thanks in advance!

If you simmed this and got positive results, your sim is flawed. This strategy has been proved both with multiple simulators and mathematics to fail. It does not matter what game you play or what bets you make. All progression systems fail and quit points make no difference.

There is no evidence that hand-shuffled BJ hands have longer winning or losing "strings." There is enormous evidence from experts that have attempted, and failed, to show such an effect. Because there are essentially only ten different cards in BJ, instead of 52, hand-shuffling is highly efficient. Progression systems were proved to fail over a century ago. And yet people continue to push them because they are simple. Some people also think the world is about to end.

Please ignore the previous post. Questions or comments regarding progressive betting, my books, or blackjack in general, are always welcome.

jannypan is just another spammer... too bad. This site has potential for questions about the basics of blackjack, and is not being seriously utilized at present. Any suggestions?

As previously stated, I don't respond to posts by Qfit. But I am available to others who wish to discuss any aspect of the game of blackjack.

Progressive betting does work if your Basic BlackJack Strategy is perfect and you use discipline as to when to stop betting higher and go back to the minimum bet. In the summer of 2010 I went to a real casino with $200 in real money and over a 4 day period of time, sitting at BlackJack tables with a minimum of $5 or $10, I made a $1500 profit without card counting and no bonus wins other than a BJ here and there. I admit that I was very lucky on those two weekends. When progressive betting and you cannot make a profit after four hands of BJ then you just go back to the table minimum bet and start over. Over a long period of time playing with perfect Basic BJ Stragegy you will (almost) always make a profit within four hands of BJ. So the ocassional loss of four hands of BJ in a row only causes a weight loss in your wallet that is fattened later on. Basic BlackJack Strategy has been tested by a computer and the result is that you can beat the casino 48% of the time, so for every four hands of BJ that you play you should win at least one of them. Progressive betting to a limit works for me.

Windar,
Chapters 10 and 11 of Twenty-first Century Blackjack specifically look at the results of four consecutive wins or losses, (based upon 5,000 manually-dealt hands) and might be of interest to you.

After reading the above post I did a test of progressive betting. On my kitchen table using six decks of shuffled cards I went one-on-one against the BlackJack dealer doing European BlackJack and progressive betting and I took notes. I did 57 hands of BJ and 10 were ties with the dealer, 47 were not. In that 47 hands of BJ I beat the dealer 24 times using only Basic Strategy. The only strategy variation I did was not doubling down or splitting when I had a big bet on the table. Starting with $1000 play money I used four levels of progressive betting play $5, $25, $100, and $200. At level one I beat the dealer 16 times; level two 2 times; level three 4 times, and level four 3 times. I only lost at level four and had to go back to level one only once. I got three BJs on $5 and doubled down on $5 once. My final profit was $457. So progessive betting in this test worked for me.

I did another progressive betting test just now using a free online BlackJack game of American BlackJack at this web address http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bst/bst.php In 20 hands one-on-one BJ using progressive betting $25,$50,$150,$300, I made a profit of $500. I did not lose at level four so I always made a profit within four hands of BJ.

A year or two ago I did four BJ tests and took notes which I do not have with me now. Using six decks of shuffled cards and four imaginary players using only Basic BJ Strategy, I played BJ with the goal of finding out which is better for progressive betting: three, four or five betting levels of play. Going through the six decks of shuffled cards once a day for four days, and therefore four tests, I discovered that four levels of play is best. In total 288 hands of BJ were played. Only one time did a player have to go to level five. No one had to go any higher then that. All four players would have made a good profit. No money was used in this test because all I recorded in my notes were wins and loses. The conclusion of this test was that progressive betting works and you only need to go to level four.

I am sorry that if millions of people start using progressive betting and make good profits and upset the casinos to the point that table minimums and maximums will be in the penny amounts rather than in the dollar amounts. I am sorry.

Because BlackJack is my hobby I play between three and seven times a week. I play with play money on my kitchen table or at various online game websites as well as BJ CD games that I got from stores and put on my computer. I play as a single player or as if there were three other players at my table. For the past five years I have been playing BJ for fun using progressive betting and 75% of the time I make a good play money profit.

At AOL.com games I was in 55 BlackJack tournaments playing against up to 200 players and progressive betting got me into the top five or ten percent of winners six times and eighteen times I was in the top twenty percent of winners. You could say that I did fifty-five tests and twentyfour times I was in the winners circle. And you also could say that in these tournaments I did more tests. In these BJ tournaments there are four levels of play; four successive tables. To get to level three and be in the top 20% of winners, you must make it past level two. So I was in the top two winning players 24 times at level one and 24 times at level two for a total of 48 winning tables. Two times I made it to level four, the final round, making that 48 a 50. In the remaining 31 tournaments I do not know how many times I was eliminated in round two therefore putting me in the top two winning players at the level one table. The few times that I have played with real money in a real casino I did make a profit about 75% of the time. Because of my situation right now I cannot play with real money, but soon I fully intend on becoming a part-time money-making professional BlackJack player on the internet or in real land based casinos.

About five years ago when I first learned BlackJack and Basic BlackJack Strategy I did thirty tests of BlackJack using progressive betting. I called it <<Thirty Days of BlackJack>> Starting with $600 play money and using four imaginary players, my goal was to make a profit of $300 or lose the whole $600. In those thirty games I achieved my goal nineteen times. I was sad though because I did not make a profit. Eleven times $600 minus 19 times $300 is minus $900. I lost $900. I should have set my goal as $200 or $100. But I was just a beginner in the world of BlackJack. Today if I were to play this game of <<Thirty Days of BlackJack>> with the same goals, I know I would get around 25 wins out of 30 which means a profit of $4500. I shall try this again someday and keep a record of my profits to see if $100 or $200 should be a better goal to go for.

In regards to a mathematical edge: it has been found. It is called Basic BlackJack Strategy and it is supposed to make a person have a win-percent of 48%. If you toss a coin, it will be heads 50% of the time and 50% of the time it will be tails. With a win percent of about 50%, you should expect that if a coin is tails now, that within the next four spins of the coin you will get a heads up. It should be logically the same with BlackJack and because of my system, progressive betting works for me as long as I never go past level four and if I do, then I go back to level one. Disipline yourself and never go past level four. Go to www.google.com and search for ----> 54% chances of winning blackjack. ----->here is my most favorite place to play online BlackJack with play money ---> http://www.games.com/browse-games/free-casino/blackjack/. They stop the game every 20 hands of blackjack to let you see how many hands of BJ you won in the last 20 or more hands of play.

20 point is hard to beat. Claims that it is very easy to beat the trivial progress and fund management, thousands of years has caused tremendous damage.

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