Isle of Capri 8/10/03
  • So I sampled Mr. Thomason's betting progression, the 2-3-4-5-5-5 positive progression at the $10 min. tables so my starting bet was $10 going on a unit of $5 so each win would take me +$5... got to the max at least 2x but was unsure if it just stays at 5 units or drops down to 2 after 6 straight wins. Overall I had a break-even night and day using this system, but got wiped out 4 straight at the $25 table after collecting the money that this guy borrowed from me. I thought we were cool, which is why I lent him $100 in the first place... but as long as it took for him to pay me back (and as much as that guy bets, $1000 a hand sometimes(!!), FORGET THAT).

    Anyway, it continues to amaze me the complete idiocy and ignorance of *ALL* the players there, and even a dumbass dealer!!!!!!!!!!!!! I probably watched ~50 players just from my table play at various ones throughout my trip, and NOT A SINGLE ONE played even close to flawless BS, not knowing what to do with two 9's but to stick'em in their ass, and people (namely an arrogant black guy who had lost about $400 and kept drawing his wallet even though his BS stunk worse than a 13 yr. girl on her period) even the dealer would grunt when I make a perfectly dictated BS play cuz they have no clue themselves... UNBELIEVEABLE!!!

    Do these people not read? Cuz I'm starting to think that unless they have interest in BJ knowledge and search on the internet or buy a book that they'd NEVER find out about BS... you know what I'm saying?

    Crazy... even the bald 80 yr. old dealer begged to differ when I was trying to Offensively Hand Interact with 1st base on his 11 vs. 10... he didn't want to cuz he said "it's risky" and he was a mad green chip player too... even the people that play $50-$100 min. tables dont know how to play... incredible!!

    I wish an opportunity would arise for me to play on a table with FLAWLESS BS PLAYERS - *sld007*, Thomason, Renzey, Midnite, Grifter, Desert-Dog!! One more to fill the 7th spot. That would be so much fun - only the counters would be ahead of everyone else then :)

    Overall, good experience with the new system, but am wondering if it's too aggressive and Dahl's/007 should be played instead?
  • Bug, Which Isle of Capri were you at? I can play flawless BS, in fact I split 8s against a 10 like a trained monkey even though I have doubts about it. Deal me in as the seventh, although I got to warn you I don't ballistic when people play their hands as they please.
  • SH: I wouldn't say ballistic, but that's one of the thigns that irritates me about other BJ players at the same table as mine -- but nothing pisses me off more than watching SCARED GAMBLERS take even money faster than a spoiled toddler.
    And I play at the Isle nearest to where I'm from in Lake Charles.

    I am laughing so hard inside when those ignorant BJers try and dispute my flawless play, and even have the audacity to chuckle at my seemingly incorrect play, only because they have no idea how to play themselves and are pissed they've lost so much money and just need something else to bitch about besides their OWN stupidity and careless playing. (TOTALLY referring to the arrogant black guy who said "fantastic, just fantastic" after my triple-split 2's failed against stiff up. I REALLY shoulda said "yeah, almost as fantastic as your losings tonight, eh?! :twisted: But I just kept my cool...)
  • BuGhOu§eMASTER said:
    SH: I wouldn't say ballistic, but that's one of the thigns that irritates me about other BJ players at the same table as mine -- but nothing pisses me off more than watching SCARED GAMBLERS take even money faster than a spoiled toddler.
    And I play at the Isle nearest to where I'm from in Lake Charles.


    Small world, Bug. The Lake Charles Isle of Capri is basically my home casino. BTW, I hope that stiff you were running 2s across the board against was a "7" since I believe that's the only one you'd split 2s against.
  • Huh??? No... you dont split 2's against 7!! That's against BS and you're only supposed to against 2-6, anything higher you just HIT... I thought you knew BS flawlessly???

    Heh, anyway we'll have to meet up there sometime... if indeed you dont oplit your 2's against 7 or higher which is the proper BS and you do play Perfect BS I want you at my table man!!

    Lemme know though!
  • BuGhOu§eMASTER said:
    Huh??? No... you dont split 2's against 7!! That's against BS and you're only supposed to against 2-6, anything higher you just HIT... I thought you knew BS flawlessly???

    Heh, anyway we'll have to meet up there sometime... if indeed you dont oplit your 2's against 7 or higher which is the proper BS and you do play Perfect BS I want you at my table man!!

    Lemme know though!


    Yeah, we'll have to do that sometime. I live in LC and have to make myself NOT go. But just to clarify. The BS table I use (which is set up for Louisiana Riverboat rules) says you split 2s against 2-through-7, not 2-6. So you would split them against that proverbial 7. I double-checked it.
  • BTW, I hope that stiff you were running 2s across the board against was a "7" since I believe that's the only one you'd split 2s against.


    From what you said there, that is inaccurate since you'd split 2's against 2 THROUGH 7, and not just against a 7... but from your last post you are correct because I had a DD BS chart that is slightly diff. then multi- and I thought the 2-7 for double was only 2-6 for MULTI.... I knew that.

    Anyway, yeah... are you an adult?? How often do you go there? You wanna meet me this Sunday cuz I'll be there with friends... chillin!! :lol:
  • All of your posts regarding splitting 2's against a 7 are confusing. Every book and chart I have seen say's to split 2's against a 7. And, it doesn't matter if you are in a single, double or multi deck game. You always split 2's against a 7.

    Bug, I might be reading your message of August 13 at 7:04AM incorrectly, so just to get it straight, you would only split 2's against a dealer 2 or 3 if you were in a game where DAS was permitted. Otherwise you would simply hit.

    On a personal note, this is what I have always found to be easiest solution for me. If I read something that is confusing to me, I simply re-state what I believe to be true. I then ask if I am correct. If I am, great. If I am incorrect, then I got some work to do to get it straight. Sometimes it is impossible for me to grasp what someone is saying because their words are unclear and not presented in an orderly manner. Again, this a peronal note and I hope no one gets offended.
  • Bug, I might be reading your message of August 13 at 7:04AM incorrectly, so just to get it straight, you would only split 2's against a dealer 2 or 3 if you were in a game where DAS was permitted. Otherwise you would simply hit.


    No... that is incorrect. First off the message was @ 2:04 AM, and you would split 2's against dealer 2-7 if DAS is permitted, not just against 2 or 3. However, if and only if the dealer shows 8 or higher against your 2's, THEN you simply hit.

    Regarding my confusing post to you.... I simply suggest to read it slower because trust me it makes sense after you grasp what I wrote concisely.
  • Bug, why do you care how other people play? They're not losing your money, they're losing their money.

    Just a question, don't go ballistic or anything.
  • Look again Bug....I was referring to your message of August 13 at 7:04AM. There weren't any messages posted at 2:04AM by anyone.
  • You two might be seeing different times since you can set your time zone specific to yourself.
  • Buffalo: Look at the 3rd post on this thread, and READ IT CAREFULLY.

    Ted: We can both set the times ourself that is why you're seeing diff. times than me. I have my time set to where I am from, which makes more sense to me than reading GMT.

    So do you agree about my post preceding this at :55? I notice you said nothing regarding it.
  • BuGhOu§eMASTER said:
    BTW, I hope that stiff you were running 2s across the board against was a "7" since I believe that's the only one you'd split 2s against.


    From what you said there, that is inaccurate since you'd split 2's against 2 THROUGH 7, and not just against a 7... but from your last post you are correct because I had a DD BS chart that is slightly diff. then multi- and I thought the 2-7 for double was only 2-6 for MULTI.... I knew that.


    We're on the same page, Bug, just wading through the mire of semantics. Yes, yes, yes, Split 2s against 2-THROUGH-7. I was taking "stiff" to mean 7 or above, in which 7 would be the only one you'd split 2s against.

    Sunday at the Isle doesn't look good for me right now, but if that changes I'll let you know.
  • Okay. I just misunderstood you cuz 7 isn't consider a stiff.
  • Just thought I'd let y'all know there's a basic strategy engine on the link below. Click on the "Blackjack Basic Strategy Engine" (about 3/4 of the way down the visible screen) and it will bring you to a customizable basic strategy screen. You can input number of decks, soft 17 rules, doubling, double after split, surrender and even hole card. So if you play 8 deck, dealer hits soft 17, double 9-10-11 only, no surrender (though I don't know why anyone would play by those rules), it will give you a chart customized to those rules...

    http://www.blackjackinfo.com/
  • Bug, what state are you in?
  • Look underneath my user name. H~Town = 4th largest city in nation
  • Forget it.
  • Haha :lol: :lol:

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