Good card counting site
  • I think Neil actually lists this site in the links. It lets you count a set of cards at a time and has all the major systems including KO. Just an FYI :lol: :lol: :lol:

    http://www.robtougher.com/servlet/web.games.blackjack.counting.index
  • Thanks for the info. I'll check it out because I'm currently TRYING to learn how to count.
  • I've emailed Rob and he says he will try to add a stage I KISS count to his site.
  • KISS stage I is up, but he could not change his software to start the initial count at 18 (so the counter stays out of negative numbers), but I think it still is a great way to practice on an interesting unbalanced count. To remind folks, Renzey's Stage I KISS uses a half rank of the 2s, he choose the black 2s, and all the 4s, 5s, and 6s as +1, only the face cards are counted as -1. Aces, 10s, 9s, 8s, 7s, 3s, and red 2s, are neutral. You'll have to get his book for his ramps and indices. I think this is a great count for the begginer to learn on, I picked it up pretty easily and have been able to keep track in a 6 deck shoe a few times at the casino but haven't altered my betting patterns yet as I haven't practiced enough for it to become 'automatic'. Thanks again Rob and Fred.
  • Doc said:
    KISS stage I is up, but he could not change his software to start the initial count at 18 (so the counter stays out of negative numbers), but I think it still is a great way to practice on an interesting unbalanced count. To remind folks, Renzey's Stage I KISS uses a half rank of the 2s, he choose the black 2s, and all the 4s, 5s, and 6s as +1, only the face cards are counted as -1. Aces, 10s, 9s, 8s, 7s, 3s, and red 2s, are neutral. You'll have to get his book for his ramps and indices. I think this is a great count for the begginer to learn on, I picked it up pretty easily and have been able to keep track in a 6 deck shoe a few times at the casino but haven't altered my betting patterns yet as I haven't practiced enough for it to become 'automatic'. Thanks again Rob and Fred.


    Thanks to you too Doc. Question to Rob and Fred -- is there any reason we'd have to assume this is an exercise with a single deck therefore we have to start at 18? For six-deck shoe play -- the kind most readily available to most of us -- the KISS I starting number is 10. Doc, it's very encouraging that you were able to keep this count going in live action!
  • TO ALL: I went to the "robtougher" site and saw that the Stage I KISS had been installed. Doc, thanks to you for that. Now, for six deck practice, I suggest going right ahead beginning your count at "10" so as to avoid negative running counts, and to simulate the exact experience you'll have when counting the shoe. After the five rounds, just subtract 10 points and check that against the answer given by the software.
  • Your welcome Fred. Your hint to start at 10 does the trick. There is no start over button in the drill, so to repeat I just hit the back button twice and I'm ready to go again. The drill is helpful because you can see your times get lower and lower as you get faster and get into whatever 'grouping' pattern is most comfortable to your individual style. A great thing about KISS is I only have to recognize the + cards; to see how many minus cards are on the board takes just a superficial scan looking for 'paint'.
  • Doc - On the results screen if you hit the "blackjack counting" it should take you back to the start screen 8) 8) 8)
  • Hello all. I've made some updates to my blackjack counting software based on requests and suggestions from the hit-or-stand community. Here they are, in no particular order:

    1. I've added the KISS II and KISS III counting systems.
    2. I've added a "play again" button to the results page, which starts a new round using the same counting system.
    3. I've posted the configuration file for the game; this file contains the point counts for all supported counting systems. You can view this file at http://www.robtougher.com/servlet/web.games.blackjack.counting.view_systems

    I'm glad that you find my site useful - if you have any ideas for improvements I'd love to hear them.

    Thanks,
    Rob
  • Thanks Rob, already put the new button to use multiple times.
  • My 12 year old son now has to earn his allowance by dealing doubledeck blackjack to me while I count cards. Call it quality time with the kids. The guy down the street plays catch in the park with his sons, but I won't do that while it's 110 degrees.
    My son of course is motivated not to let it move along too slowly, so he's setting nearly a casino pace. We each start with an equal stack of chips, and at the end of a set period, whatever he has more than I have is converted to $ for his allowance. Last nite the "house" had a bad run of luck. About one-third to midway through the two decks the count was up to plus 12 (hi-lo system) so I was betting high and mostly winning big. It is interesting to see all these player 20's, blackjacks, 21's on doubles, and dealer busts happening exactly as they are supposed to. As things stand at the moment, my son won't be getting any allowance for about three weeks, but he's expecting to fix that today.
    Can anyone tell me why there are these really big kids from my son's school football team hanging around in front of my house?
  • LOL, I have to admit that my 12 year old also knows about splits, double downs and BJs and is picking up basic strategy. The other day I played a play money holdem tournament on pokerpages.com and was shocked by getting stomped by a 13 y/o. The fact is, at this age thier brains are 'primed' to pick up this stuff and they will learn it exponentially faster than adults. Try playing some of thier video games. Desert Dog sounds to me like you better 'get while the getting is good' as they say down here. Maybe the 'big kids' are waiting to get into the double deck game your son is running in the garage.

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