dj, i take it your joking?????

anyone can make up results for a week

win1,

all alex will tell you is that you dont knw how to play his system, but the thing is is he doesnt knw how to play it either.. we have all caught him in numerous lies so please do not take anything he has to say as the truth,

Awesome results NnB,

how much for that system, lol

you should at least charge $400 for those results.. just rename it and call it the NnB system and go on and on how you have played it for 30 years and NEVER lost and that you have won 30k over the last few months..

Nickels_n_Bullets said:

Ace-FIve method as Published. 6D S17 DOA DAS LS

Hours: 51.75
Hands: 5175
Profit: $15920
Action:$187,984
My edge: 8.47%
Min Bet: $25
Max Bet: $200 (spread 1-8 as 1,2,4,6,8)
Ave Bet: $36.325
Win%= 44.64%/(44.64% + 47.01%)=48.71%
Lose%= 100%-48.71%= 51.29%
House Advantage (Alex's): 51.29%-48.71%= 2.58%


This data includes 8 tips for the dealer
3@ $12.50
1@ $21
4@ $125.00

Results of the tips:
the dealer won 2@ $12.50 and pushed 1
the dealer won the $21 tip
the dealer won 2 of the $125 tips, lost 1 @ $125 and lost a DD $125 tip.

The Ace-Five system beats Alex's hands down... A5 allows me a better win%, at a reduced spread, and gives me a higher take% (re: 8.47% vs. Alex's 4.96%). This from one of the worse "count systems" you will find.

The truth is that I made this money last week of real play full time.
On the other hand, you didn't play for 51 hours last week or any week for that matter.

This are real play stats:
6D, H17, DAS, RSA=0, CSM, full table at 65 hands per hour
hours: 50.0
hands: 3250
profit: $3255
$/hour: $65.10
action: $65650
my edge: 4.96%
min unit: $5
avrg bet: $20
max bet: $55
$/hand: $1.00

Your probably played on CV software where you get most of your BJ experience. That is the difference. Is like day and night.

I do play full time. I do earn my money only in casino playing BJ or Baccarat at all times.

But I do have a test for you. Please go to this web link and get the BJ hands results for 5 players for 6D and run your system over or any other system if you want. Post results and see if you can win in all the 5 spots at the table. My system does, even when casino has 4% or 1% edge on #3 and #5. For the other spots the player has the edge so there is no miracle to win but see if your system can beat 4% casino edge. See how much you make playing #5. Have an average bet of about $20.

Now, make all the BJ to be 6:5 and run again any system over. See if you can beat #5 or #3. Now, make the BJ be 1:1 and see if you still beat #3 or #5. Now make the BJ to be like banker and have the player pay a commision like BJ being 0.95 : 1. Now, make all the double down hands to be single wins. Can you still make money? - My system does!

If you do, that is POWER!

Link to BJ hands ====> http://www.vidpoker.com/bj_system.htm

Thats true, Alex, it is CVBJ heads-up against the dealer. I invite you to try your system this way, so that the results of every hand can be logged. CVBJ IS the next best thing to actual play.

For my actual play with real $ my average results over the years under various conditions of play indicate a return of 7.5%, because I make mistakes as everyone does. Especially true in the early years when I had no idea of exactly how to modify Basic slightly for LS, and thought A5 could actually alter close plays, when in fact, it can't. Also I guessed at when to quit with a negative count, which was not correct. I used to play hands at -8, now I have corrected that to -6. Since I first simmed and corrected A5 for my local game, my results indicate a gain of 9% average increase to the initial bankroll. With real money, and money management.

Most times I start with 12x, and try win 4.5x or more, before the house takes 4x. I can stretch that to 5.5x, if I want, but the winning session % drops a bit. Playing for $25 makes the $$$ look Ok.

Nickels_n_Bullets said:

"Link to BJ hands ====> http://www.vidpoker.com/bj_system.htm"

After finally going there to see whatzup, I find there is the usual INSUFFICIENT data to make a comparison. The hands dealt are MISSING, indicating no count method is accurately portrayed.

THIS IS COIN-FLIP DATA.

Standard deck cards, professionally shuffled and dealt to real players. All plays made exactly per basic strategy. Shoes numbered in the same order played

Without card-count play, blackjack systems that will yield a positive expectation for the player have to be based on bet amount variations that exploit the unique win/loss patterns of the game.

Nickels_n_Bullets said:

Which one of those hands at the site is 8-8 vs. 10?
Which one is 4-7 vs. dealer 6 ?

Makes no difference! - Who cares?
The bottom line what counts in this game is the W/L ratio.
Who cares if I get 9-2 vs. 6 or 8-3 vs. 6 or 9-2 vs. 6?
I don't care if I get 8-8 vs. T or 9-7 vs. T or 10-6 vs. T ,,. because I always surrender those garbage hands. Lose half the bet and bet again next hand. If next hand is 16 vs. T again than I surrender one more time and I consider I lost one single bet.

Lasvegasplayer said:

I recently bought this system for $150, the tricks I've learned in this system makes all other system obsolute as far as I'm concerned. I've tried just about every system out there, this one is by far the best. I highly recommend this system if you are serious about the game.

www.playblackjackprofessionally.com

And it's funny how his grammar improved so much in the second post.

I think they're collaborating on a new book/system.

Lasvegasplayer said:

Alex, my name is David Kuvelas, I'm in Las Vegas and I'm a professional blackjack player who has been playing for 14 years. This is my website:

www.playblackjackprofessionally.com

I have been playing on these tables every day for 14 years professionally, I've played on thousands upon thousands of tables, I have yet to this day see anyone who had any clue whatsoever what they were doing playing blackjack.

Since you are also in Las Vegas, why don't we meet at a casino, I'll watch your system and you can watch mine, let me see for myself that your system works, as you can do the same with mine.

Forgive my skepticism, but I offer you the opportunity to prove your system and then if I see you know what you are doing I will give you a positive recommendation on this message board. How would that be?

David Kuvelas
www.playblackjackprofessionally.com

Hi David,
I am curious to find out if your system deals with some kind of progression. I agree with you about that card counting in the short or even long run is ineffective. It require much work and the reward is meaningless in regard to money earned.

Well, my system deals with the W/L (win loss ratio) and it totally offsets the house edge when the casino wins more hands vs. player.
I post some details but the core of my system has never been published.

David, are you from Vegas? I play in Vegas pretty regularly but I also play in southern CA where there are some great games.


Best Regards,