LastVoice said:Is anyone having any success w/ their progressions and if so what's your progression?
Walter Thomason said:I've been using the four step positive progression explained in my book for about five years (over 100,000 hands of play) and am well ahead of the casino. Basically, it's a 2/3/4/5/5/5 etc. positive progression with a 4 loss quit point.
Buffarino said:Thanks, Grifter. Any idea how that translates at a table with a CSM?
Walter Thomason said:
DD: I don't recommend my system for CSM play. In fact, I don't recommend ANY system for CSMs... don't play them!
Buffarino said:Very nice, DD. I hope she was playing max coins!
What is Dahl's progression? I've got to buy some BJ books one of these days.
Desert Dog said:[quote=Buffarino]Very nice, DD. I hope she was playing max coins!
What is Dahl's progression? I've got to buy some BJ books one of these days.
Walter Thomason said:Bug: Unlike Dahl's system, I don't skip levels after winning a double-down or split. I stop at 5 units because this "medium aggressive" style fits my temperment... not boring and not heart-breaking when you lose the top bet. It's been suggested that the system be called the "Thomason Four-Step Positive Progression" but this seems rather pretentious.
Buffarino said:
Very nice, indeed. Yes, the question has been answered.
Now I've got another. I'm heading to LV in a couple weeks. Do you know if any of the main strip casinos offer $10 tables with regular 6 deck shoes? I'd love to avoid the CSM's if I can, but I also don't want to have to go off the strip to do it. That's a big part of the Vegas experience for me.
Renzey said:For the sake of ther almighty dollar, drive over the mountains to a real game. Show the CSM casinos that you won't play a "neutralized" game of blackjack. If you do, the machines will eventually take over -- then you can put blackjack into the same class with craps.
CD said:Desert Dog:
It sounds like you are doing well against the CSM's in Arizona. Are you using a progression based on a running count? I have been trying that, and also trying to use table selection (looking for friendlier machines that are paying out to all at table). So far, I've had mixed results, ahead about 20 units after 12 hours & 5 trips - with very good trips + 50 units, to bad trips, - 30 units. The casino has just opened, is run by the local indian tribe, and has King machines on all BJ tables.
Any ideas from the members would be appreciated. I know that a drive over the mountains to a countable game is the first option, but having the casino 15 minutes away is tempting & convenient.
thanks,
CD
midnite said:Mr. Ed- They are all good, but how about this :
We find as full of a table as we can with a CSM and sit down to play. We say, loud enough for all to hear, "you know you can't beat these dang card machines, they always give the house more 20"s and BJ's than they do the players". Now we try and use the selective memory thing. As soon as the dealer gets a BJ or a 20 you say "See what I mean" and leave the table. By the way, this does not work well, after winning 19 out of 20 hands.... :wink:
Mr. Ed said:Sorry Desert Dog, my post was a little rude, so I'll try again:
The short answer is "Yes" you can use advantage play with a CSM, using the method you describe. BUT, the advantage will be very small indeed, and opportunities will be rare.
I would suggest you avoid CSMs and use your counting skills with a shoe or pitch game. You will have much more success.
Good luck.
p.s. I've also heard that CSMs give the dealer more 20s and BJs! :wink:
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